Where's the Misha Mansoor sig?

[xenophobe]

Except Black Dahlia Murder aren't from Sweden. I will go on the record and say that musically they're not that bad, but the amount of inside jokes and ironic tendencies in their music turns me off instantly. I can't tell if they're joking about what they're doing, or if they're actually serious. For me, this puts them in direct contrast to bands like At The Gates, Dissection, or Dark Tranquility. They've replaced the darkness that made me fall in love with metal in the first place with loads of irony.

It doesn't really matter that they're not from Sweden, and you have your own reasons for liking what you do. I actually only like a few of those melodic death bands, but that doesn't make the ones I don't like part of some fad because of the fact I don't like them.

And Straycat, I hope you realize that I was turning your argument back against you. If you don't like it, then you shouldn't preach it because whatever style of music you may actually like probably falls into the same category from someone else's perspective.



EDIT: And before you people go thinking I'm an asshole or something, go look back through ALL of my posts in any thread going all the way back to my join date. I don't think I've ever said "oh, my music is better than yours". I hope you all realize that I'm making a point that that's what you guys are doing...

[VanHoosen]

EDIT: And before you people go thinking I'm an asshole or something, go look back through ALL of my posts in any thread going all the way back to my join date. I don't think I've ever said "oh, my music is better than yours". I hope you all realize that I'm making a point that that's what you guys are doing...

That's exactly what I was (am?) doing. All in the healthy spirit of heavy metal. That is, after all, exactly what the Bay Area thrash guys would say to the LA glam guys back in the day, right? And the Stockholm death metal guys to the Gothenburg guys? And the Norwegian black metal guys to the... other Norwegian black metal guys? Oh well, it keeps things interesting.

Either way, at least I can say that Periphery have done what they set out to do, albeit in an indirect way. I am thoroughly entertained. Another satisfied customer!

I'm just going to crawl back to my hole and listen to Mercyful Fate.

[Trem]

I must not understand what is being referred to as "djent" today. I assumed it was stuff like well..Meshuggah, and more power type of riffing.
But back in the late 80's early 90's we were using the "word" djent in "speech" to describe a certain type of riffing. Right? Anyone else?
Basically most people were doing some type of thrash music, this was a less Slayer style for the most part, and more power riffing.
Typically it was riffage with a lot of tight stops and a some odd timings here and there, though the later not a defining factor. There were a few bands doing that type of thing or had elements of it here, and i'm sure in many peoples local scene. Here it was Forced Entry, Rawhead, Reactivate...and some others. They were doing a lot of riffs that literally if you were to use your mouth to describe them, the word djent was used. I don't hear that in Periphery, or some of this other stuff people are equating djent too.

The word "djent" is well represented right here imo. Ain't nothing new.
And how this Still kicks so much ass over so much chit today mayng. Djent! Djentjentjent!

[MetalDaze]

That's why thrash and grunge took off so heavily at that point. It was anti-girlyman.

Holy shit...I agree with Xeno!

[VanHoosen]

I must not understand what is being referred to as "djent" today. I assumed it was stuff like well..Meshuggah, and more power type of riffing.

It's kind of morphed from an onomatopoeia into its own genre. Like Periphery, Animals as Leaders, Veil of Maya, Textures, Tesseract, and whoever else starts playing the music in the next 5 years. While Meshuggah are a legitimate death metal band, the "djent" genre is like sugary, somewhat technical pop played on 8 string guitars. Long story short, while some of these bands have metal elements, such as heavy riffing, they are not actually metal. Forced Entry, on the other hand, is undeniably metal.

[xenophobe]

That's exactly what I was (am?) doing. All in the healthy spirit of heavy metal. That is, after all, exactly what the Bay Area thrash guys would say to the LA glam guys back in the day, right? And the Stockholm death metal guys to the Gothenburg guys? And the Norwegian black metal guys to the... other Norwegian black metal guys? Oh well, it keeps things interesting.

Ummm... I guess a lot of people are single-genre like that. I can easily throw in and enjoy CDs that I own from Peter Gabriel, Lisa Loeb, Pink Floyd, Sex Pistols, Alan Holdsworth, Prong, Marilyn Manson, Mendelssohn, AC/DC, Slayer, Suffocation, Front 242, Miranda Sex Garden, Skinny Puppy, Mr Bungle, Emperor, Cocteau Twins, Numb, Miles Davis, Portishead, Yngwie, Jarboe, The Residents, Buckethead, Lacuna Coil etc... so I don't really get it when people think like that.

Holy shit...I agree with Xeno!

Grunge, Thrash and hardcore Rap all got really popular at about the time glam died.

[Trem]

1.It's kind of morphed from an onomatopoeia into its own genre.
2.While Meshuggah are a legitimate death metal band,
3.the "djent" genre is like sugary, somewhat technical pop played on 8 string guitars. Long story short, while some of these bands have metal elements, such as heavy riffing, they are not actually metal.
4.Forced Entry, on the other hand, is undeniably metal.

1.Thanks, now i have to look up, omnipmoihinatat ..that word.

2.Death Metal...ehh, naw..but i get what your saying...

3.Ewww...

5.Concur, i guess it's disheartening that kids today took a phrase that represented face punching metal and turned it into "sugary, somewhat technical pop played on 8 string guitars."

[VitaminG]

I can't like Textures now? Bugger. Ah well, I don't want to lose face in front of you guys. I just don't think I could take it if you all started ripping on me for my tastes in music, so from now on I'll be starting threads with leading questions about certain bands until I'm sure they get passed as "legit" & "tr00" and can be sure that it's okay to like them. Of course, I'll be totally ready to wail on them if it turns out they are not. Yea.

fwiw, Textures seems more akin to Isis and Gojira than to Periphery, Animals As Leaders, etc.

[VitaminG]

1.Thanks, now i have to look up, omnipmoihinatat ..that word.

it's a fancy way of saying "a word that sounds like what it's describing". Like "splat"

[VanHoosen]

Ummm... I guess a lot of people are single-genre like that. I can easily throw in and enjoy CDs that I own from Peter Gabriel, Lisa Loeb, Pink Floyd, Sex Pistols, Alan Holdsworth, Prong, Marilyn Manson, Mendelssohn, AC/DC, Slayer, Suffocation, Front 242, Miranda Sex Garden, Skinny Puppy, Mr Bungle, Emperor, Cocteau Twins, Numb, Miles Davis, Portishead, Yngwie, Jarboe, The Residents, Buckethead, Lacuna Coil etc... so I don't really get it when people think like that.

You could say I'm a bit xenophobic of the spread of djent, deathcore, metalcore, mathcore, post-hardcore, and bro-core into metal. I'm not single genre by any stretch of the imagination - in fact I actually enjoy half the stuff you listed. I just feel like bands like Periphery don't encapsulate the true metal spirit because they come from a different musical background all together. It's somewhat similar to a modern Jackson, something that in the past you've grown to expect a certain standard and feel from, come to you made on some cookie-cutter assembly line feeling like some entirely different breed of guitar. In this case, you have the music press hailing the newest "ground breaking progressive metal release" that feels like goddamn emo. And I wouldn't have a problem with it if it wasn't presented as metal in the first place - just like I'm sure no one here would have a problem if a cheap Jackson import wasn't presented as a true Jackson. I realize that for those of you that have a hard time with analogies this one may be a stretch, but for those of you that don't, maybe you can see where I'm coming from.

I just don't think I could take it if you all started ripping on me for my tastes in music, so from now on I'll be starting threads with leading questions about certain bands until I'm sure they get passed as "legit" & "tr00" and can be sure that it's okay to like them.

Hahaha! A real man can be a fan of Celine Dione and not give a fuck what other people have to say about it. Periphery fans, on the other hand, cannot.

[elrrek]

Oh man VanHoosen! You have gone WAY too far now! If you had said Shania Twain then I could have accepted it but all Celine Dione recordings needs to destroyed with the cleansing power of vegetarian progressive grindcore with Strongbad soloing over it.

[xenophobe]

You could say I'm a bit xenophobic of the spread of djent, deathcore, metalcore, mathcore, post-hardcore, and bro-core into metal. I'm not single genre by any stretch of the imagination - in fact I actually enjoy half the stuff you listed. I just feel like bands like Periphery don't encapsulate the true metal spirit because they come from a different musical background all together. It's somewhat similar to a modern Jackson, something that in the past you've grown to expect a certain standard and feel from, come to you made on some cookie-cutter assembly line feeling like some entirely different breed of guitar. In this case, you have the music press hailing the newest "ground breaking progressive metal release" that feels like goddamn emo. And I wouldn't have a problem with it if it wasn't presented as metal in the first place - just like I'm sure no one here would have a problem if a cheap Jackson import wasn't presented as a true Jackson. I realize that for those of you that have a hard time with analogies this one may be a stretch, but for those of you that don't, maybe you can see where I'm coming from.

I do understand where you're coming from. I don't like much of the modern metal stuff coming out either. I'm not just going to label it as some sub-genre that I don't like and not like anything that may be similar. If a band has jams that I like, I'll probably like them. If they don't, I don't. Music is any assortment of noises that you find pleasing to your ear. I do make fun of bands that go all extreme or silly, but usually only when they're doing it and being serious about it. Glam fits that description, yet I still like quite a few glam bands. But some of them personally embarass me. That doesn't mean I won't still like them, but I will poke fun at them. But I can't stack genres and say this type of music is better than that. I don't like Emo, for example, but I like quite a few of the older bands that would now fit into that category. To each their own.

[yoko5000]

nobody mentioned it but at least djent doesnt suck as rap metal!!!!1
yea i definitely can smell certain amount of hype in it but its not as bad as early 90s grunge scene either.
anyways i always liked something new, i actually like periphery and these bands, too.

[Endrik]

Pages of pathetic music provincialism. Can I join?

[VanHoosen]

Oh man VanHoosen! You have gone WAY too far now! If you had said Shania Twain then I could have accepted it but all Celine Dione recordings needs to destroyed with the cleansing power of vegetarian progressive grindcore with Strongbad soloing over it.

Woah bro, you don't get down on Celine? Bro, you be mad bro? Fukkin' Titanic bro. But Shania's cool too.

Pages of pathetic music provincialism. Can I join?

Not unless you want to keep discussing the cultural merits of Celine Dione and Shania Twain.