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Re: DIRTY RAT
While just letting an auction run it's course and win it by being the high bidder may be the honorable thing to do it doesn't always work out as expected as I have learned from experience. I had an axe I wanted badly and was the high bidder with the reserve met the entire time. The seller closed the auction without even emailing me they were doing so. Nobody even tried to outbid me prior to it's close either. I was pissed to say the least. But instead of crying over a missed oppurtunity I decided to have a different plan of attack if I saw something I really wanted again.
Since I'm obviously open to having a guitar back doored I email the seller ahead of time to let him know I really want the guitar and will try to better any offers they are made. I got one guitar that way. I was the high bidder the whole time. But he did ended up closing the auction early for me because he was getting so many offers that it was blowing his mind. I told him my proxy and he split the difference between the best back door offer he got and my proxy. I would have been more than willing to let the auction run its course but after learning the hard way in the past I wanted my bases covered.
I still consider it a back door auction since he closed it early for me. But if I hadn't emailed him about that in the first place that would have been another guitar I really wanted that I missed out on. Is that wrong? I know it's not exactly the same as what happened with this auction but I also don't think everyone should look down upon auctions that are closed early because the seller choose to do so. Even eBay says a seller has the right to close an auction and sell to the highest bidder if they wish.
Kevin is right there is no brotherhood though. I do think there are good relations between the JCF members but how do you determine who gets what guitar out of a group of 2000+ people without feelings being hurt somewhere? Is there supposed to be a pecking order or something? I remember when the whole dibs thing was going on over JCF members bidding eBay auctions against other JCF members. It was just the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard. Calling dibs on a public auction? It almost sounded like people were saying other JCF member were bidding it out of spite. Lets face it we are all interested in the same guitars.
The whole reason I'm mentioning any of this crap is because it is starting a fued between all the members of the board that have different opinions on how a guitar should be acquired. Is it really worth it? Jackson made more than 2000 guitars. There is bound to be another one down the line somewhere for you or the next guy to score. And in the end I think most everyone that does get a nice axe and decides to sell it always offers it up here first. In most cases anyhow.
While just letting an auction run it's course and win it by being the high bidder may be the honorable thing to do it doesn't always work out as expected as I have learned from experience. I had an axe I wanted badly and was the high bidder with the reserve met the entire time. The seller closed the auction without even emailing me they were doing so. Nobody even tried to outbid me prior to it's close either. I was pissed to say the least. But instead of crying over a missed oppurtunity I decided to have a different plan of attack if I saw something I really wanted again.
Since I'm obviously open to having a guitar back doored I email the seller ahead of time to let him know I really want the guitar and will try to better any offers they are made. I got one guitar that way. I was the high bidder the whole time. But he did ended up closing the auction early for me because he was getting so many offers that it was blowing his mind. I told him my proxy and he split the difference between the best back door offer he got and my proxy. I would have been more than willing to let the auction run its course but after learning the hard way in the past I wanted my bases covered.
I still consider it a back door auction since he closed it early for me. But if I hadn't emailed him about that in the first place that would have been another guitar I really wanted that I missed out on. Is that wrong? I know it's not exactly the same as what happened with this auction but I also don't think everyone should look down upon auctions that are closed early because the seller choose to do so. Even eBay says a seller has the right to close an auction and sell to the highest bidder if they wish.
Kevin is right there is no brotherhood though. I do think there are good relations between the JCF members but how do you determine who gets what guitar out of a group of 2000+ people without feelings being hurt somewhere? Is there supposed to be a pecking order or something? I remember when the whole dibs thing was going on over JCF members bidding eBay auctions against other JCF members. It was just the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard. Calling dibs on a public auction? It almost sounded like people were saying other JCF member were bidding it out of spite. Lets face it we are all interested in the same guitars.
The whole reason I'm mentioning any of this crap is because it is starting a fued between all the members of the board that have different opinions on how a guitar should be acquired. Is it really worth it? Jackson made more than 2000 guitars. There is bound to be another one down the line somewhere for you or the next guy to score. And in the end I think most everyone that does get a nice axe and decides to sell it always offers it up here first. In most cases anyhow.
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