Soldano vs. Vetta 2

[skorb]

[Sanctuary]

Can we leave the stupid anal solid state vs tube debate for another thread. I want to hear about the wonders of the Vetta, while I wait for mine to arrive...

[thenine]

so far, Line 6 has provided the ability to download the newest Vetta software from their newest model amp and upgrade your existing older Vetta to the newest Vetta standard.

that kinda pops your resale value theory, at least as regarding the Vetta. it's also another reason Vetta owners love that amp.

Did anyone notice I said "resale value"? How much are AX2's worth now a days? The same can be said for Vetta1 vs Vetta2. The prices drop when the next 'model' comes out. Good tube amps will hold their own, sometimes increase.

I'm not debating tone here. Strictly on resale value (which is all I said), over time, the Soldano will win.

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[Cleveland Metal]

It will take a very long time for the Vetta to be obsolete and impossible to have repaired. I am willing to take my chances because it sounds that good.

I dunno about that. My Voodu Valve took a crap (a $600+ unit from a big company), and the chip in it is over with and it can't be fixed. And that unit is still in production. They just changed the chip now and it is different supporting architecture. They don't even repair stuff in house anymore. Rocktron has REALLY displayed to me how this stuff can go.

You really think it would do their business well to just keep releasing software (for free) that keeps an old unit improving and improving? Eventually, they will get a new line of CPUs and as soon as that happens, they won't be paying to build that old CPU or chipset or a lot of surrounding proprietary stuff, that's for sure. At that point, it's done.

With multi layer, surface mount and extremely custom ULSI parts, it takes the ability to repair out of most places hands even if the main CPU doesn't crap out.

Ya buy a new one...

[ABSOLUT CHARVEL]

with the way things are heading ie. lin6, PRS, Gibson, Yamaha, and now Fender .... Guitars are going to have processors that equals to the Pods, GT-8, etc ... built in the guitar. USB guitars for all your patch needs!

[Twisteramps]

I dunno, man, I heard the AX2 had a lot of problems plus you don't see 'em around much anymore. How similar IS a Vetta to your personal computer for example? How long do all your PCs last? Mine last about 4-5 years...

First off, you are saying "I heard". I've seen em still being used. If you really want to do the personal computer vs Vetta comparison, Take a close look at any modern channel switching guitar amp and look at how complex the circuit board is, and how many ICs and logic chips you have for midi switching, channel switching, etc. At least the Vetta doesn't have super-hot tubes soaking the PCB with heat every time you use it.

As far as I know, the Vetta was rolled out in 2001, so some are 6 years old already. I worked at a company that used a Macintosh from '85 as a webserver back in '99... admittedly it was a stunt (they had a website devoted to it) but it did work well for the small tasks they assigned it.

Pete

[Robert Burns]

I think we all tweak and constantly search for somthing "Better" in tone,
but im really close with my 50wt DSL 2000 Marshall thru a Kustom 4/12
cab with 65wt celestions, and the Boss GT-8. Killer Skid Row/ Wasp
(imo) tone. Its no Uberschall" but its 75% of one! :-) I am a whore
for having about 870msec of delay tailing off in the distance with about
8% feedback. ( one repeat) Kinda like im playing in a large arena, in my mind anyway.
A processor gives you the huge sound, which imo is too dry just through
a large tube head with a touch of reverb. At bedroom levels at least.
Another big plus of the Boss Gt-8 is that it can tame a Marshall 100 wt
head. Allows you to crank it to 8 and then set the volume level to about
12 on the GT-8. Bedroom volume, but still pushing the power section.
My Brother in laws full stack just "sings" now being pushed hard.

[shreddermon]

I use my PODXTLive for practical reasons only...But I am surprised more people don't power these modeling units with Tube power...It makes all the difference in the world...If you MUST got the hybrid route...It should be a pre amp modeling unit into a Valve powered unit...It will get you as close as it's gunna get today!

I've been saying the same for a few years now. Best of both worlds, IMHO.

Thinking of upgrading my rig right now, actually. Giving the Vetta serious consideration, but have yet to play it in person. Cleve makes a very good point, though - hadn't considered that before, dude. In the meantime, I'm leaning towards upgrading to a GT8 and possibly a Peavey JSX or Carvin V3.

[RacerX]

I dunno, man, I heard the AX2 had a lot of problems plus you don't see 'em around much anymore. How similar IS a Vetta to your personal computer for example? How long do all your PCs last? Mine last about 4-5 years...

[jgcable]

It will take a very long time for the Vetta to be obsolete and impossible to have repaired. I am willing to take my chances because it sounds that good.

[Twisteramps]

One thing a lot of you are forgetting is that if you like how the Vetta sounds now, it's not going to matter what the newer version sounds like. Could be better, could not... I still know people who prefer the old Pod 2.x to the XTs. Why, I even know people who prefer shitty old JCM800s to the 900s or even the TSL and DSLs!

Cleve has a point on the 'what will you do in ten years' thing though. However, I have a Randall RG80ES from the 80s that still works great, and it's solid state. I've seen some guys in my area using the first Line6 amp (AX2, ugly thing) still, and it's ten years old.

Pete

[sevser]

Sanctuary just said it...Half price! Doesn't sound like it held its value too much...Line6 does pretty good with keeping users going but...It will be out done just like any other CPU...

Another good reason to spilt you rig...I might have to drop $ on new XTLive (or similar) but I'll always have my power amp and cabs!

and if my xt goes down I can still plug straight in to my XXX...If a vetta goes down...Yerrr out!

[Cleveland Metal]

You guys have to be kidding... Like that will last that long. Software will soon outclass the processor. They will eventually get you to upgrade (replace) the unit.

Can you still run much win 95 software on a new pc? not really.

And that chip will go out of manufacture. If the processor takes a shit, it isnt repairable, it's just over.

[sevser]

I use my PODXTLive for practical reasons only...But I am surprised more people don't power these modeling units with Tube power...It makes all the difference in the world...Like I say (no one seems to hold any value in my shit ) but I play a lot of shows with that set up and I get mobbed after every set with comps...My other guitarist has the same set up with a SS power amp...(160 to my 120) and (Sorry Steve) I cut through way better with half the volume and last night we played with 3 Inches of Blood and Steve’s rig was miced mine was not...I still cut through...I still got all the comps! Shit…I even have two less speakers! Haha (6 to Steve’s 8)

I would rather have an all tube set up any day but if you must I can't understand how a Vetta being all SS can compare to a POD system running into a Tube powered amp????

Yes I have heard the Vetta but I know my rig will over power one hands down....

All these hybrids with the tube pre and SS power...all ass backwards as far as I have learned.

If you MUST got the hybrid route...It should be a pre amp modeling unit into a Valve powered unit...It will get you as close as it's gunna get today!

[Sanctuary]

so far, Line 6 has provided the ability to download the newest Vetta software from their newest model amp and upgrade your existing older Vetta to the newest Vetta standard.

that kinda pops your resale value theory, at least as regarding the Vetta. it's also another reason Vetta owners love that amp.

Yeah, that's why I bought the Vetta I. It's got almost the same features for half the price. Can't beat that. And it's all down to the software.