Kung Fu!

[SEEGERMANY]

You taliwacker, it ran from 72-75. I was in high school!

[john.w.lawson]

You taliwacker, it ran from 72-75. I was in high school!

SURRRRRRRRE what ever you say SG

[roodyrocker]

Bruce Lee ruled! UFC is boring, Bruce could have kicked their collective butts. After all, he even kicked Chuck Norris' butt in Way Of The Dragon, oh yeah and Wolfman Jack's for good measure too

[phill_up]

wtf was the movie "ring of fire" or "Octagon" whatever. I have tried to recall the movie title but cant even find it with google. Some guy fights all the way to the end of the movie only to see the meaning of life was just the image in the mirror. David caradine was the bad guy he had to fight all the way through the movie

[Endrik]

Why doesnt karate, kung fu or taekwon-do rate better in all out balls to the wall UFC championships?

how the western world is teaching those martial arts are mostly considered uneffective in a real fight... a lot of nice clean techniques done the same way thousands of times but it doesn't consider how chaotic the actual attacker can be... MME guys practice so that their opponent constantly attacks them, without any predictable rules and techniques... but more in a street fight way... that way the fighters learn how to act in every situation... that's why Bill can kick serious ass because he is used to a real chaotic fight.
Kung Fu etc. techniques can be used but they should be practiced with an aggressive partner who doesn't just stand or do technique series. Of course all those fantastic movie kicks doesn't mostly work.
But I agree... UFC is boring to watch for me personally... it's effective but doesn't have any "beauty"... I prefer to watch those cheesy kung fu salto kicks and whatnot.

[scott.court]

As a martial artist myself, I can see the pro's and cons of most styles.

I found Karate too rigid, Aikido and Jujutsu too soft, and Ninjitsu too "stigmatized", so went to study Fujian White Crane (also Tiger/Crane combination, Mantis and T'ai Chi/Suang Yang). I love the flow of Crane style, and the brutality and power of Tiger. Mantis is deceptive and mixes in perfectly with the two other styles.

UFC is also great. It's about getting in quick and applying Ju-jitsu style locks and holds - perfect for your average bar room brawl, and enclosed ring. However alot of western stles of kung fu omit to teach similar grips and locks. Forget the Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon stlye lumping miles in the air crap. Mantis and Tiger have some awesome locks and grapple, and tiger close up is more powerful than you might think.

I hate all this Bruce Lee could kick so-and-so's ass. Bruce was a master. A legend who took many aspects of other styles to create his own Jeet Kune Do - adaptable and unpredictable. However, fighting against a style you've never faced before is scary as hell, and while I might (in my prime!) have been quicker moving than a UFC fighter, or Mike Tyson or whoever, I'd probably have had to really concentrate to get a disabling attack in before I got overwhelmed by the UFC style (I'm claustrophobic, so grapple me to the floor and sit on me and I freak out lol).

Therefore the last time I was seriously threatened by a guy weilding a knife I told him that if he hit me, he'd bst kill me, cos if he doesn't I'd batter the sh*t out of him...... AS it turned out, I went easy on him... he escaped minus his blade, but with a broken elbow and wrist.

I'd like to add that I study Kung Fu for health and fitness reasons more than anything else. I'm sure many of you know that the words Kung Fu literally translate into "hard work"... no kidding!

[straycat]

Kung Fu was actually the first style all the others came later.
My teacher is a 13 degree master(red belt)Back in the 70's when I started it would take a year between belts once you got above yellow belt.
Now a days you see a 7 year old kid with a black belt.IMO a black belt should be earned not given for just knowing a set of Katas.My teacher taught us the anatomy of the human body, pressure points and what happens when you strike that point.
Each belt level was given a weapon to master a group of offensive and a group of defensive techniques that had to be mastered.
I still do T'ai Chi to this day just for the health aspect.Great excersize too.

[scott.court]

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IMO a black belt should be earned not given for just knowing a set of Katas.My teacher taught us the anatomy of the human body, pressure points and what happens when you strike that point.

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+1 to that, my friend

[Davey]

Kung Fu was actually the first style all the others came later.
My teacher is a 13 degree master(red belt)Back in the 70's when I started it would take a year between belts once you got above yellow belt.
Now a days you see a 7 year old kid with a black belt.IMO a black belt should be earned not given for just knowing a set of Katas.My teacher taught us the anatomy of the human body, pressure points and what happens when you strike that point.
Each belt level was given a weapon to master a group of offensive and a group of defensive techniques that had to be mastered.
I still do T'ai Chi to this day just for the health aspect.Great excersize too.

yeah.. i used to study karate as a kid. fine and dandy, untill it got so comercialised that like you said 7, 8year olds ran around with black belts, acting all tough. the same thing with tae-kwon-do .. because one of the guys here is world the lightweight champion, kids are storming in and get black belts in a month, then think they're some uber human or whatever. plus when they grow up they're arrogant as hell. might do good in a fight but i dont know cos i havent seen anyone yet :P

i got into iaido recently. pair that up with aikido and something more ofensive and you got a killer hehe

[Norton]

Martial Arts are very commercialized in the west. There are a lot of schools that claim to teach Karate in their shop signs but they teach taekwondo..in a bastardized way. They don't grade their students depending on ability to fight. They have programs like "come here for 2 years and we'll give you a black belt" And this gives people a false confidence that might actually get them killed. I wouldn't like to find out that I couldn't fight, while trying to fight in a bar fight. Karate, taekwondo and the popular striking styles that we know are taught a lot more seriously and a lot harder in their original countries. So, when they are watered down, they turn into dancing, in a way.


And the thing with UFC, it doesn't look good, I definitely agree with that, but if you start to understand how grappling works, you start to see the tactics and strategy behind the fighters' moves. And it's more mind challenging than it looks, I think. And like someone said in a previous post, only striking fighters can not succeed in UFC, because they don't know how to fight on the ground. You might have 20 years some Karate style under your belt, but it still doesn't make you able to fight on the ground. The ground is an ocean. And most people don't know how to swim.(that's actually a quote from someone I know). You still have to have striking skills as a grappler, to get into the takedown range to take your opponent down, but it's mainly grappling.


So, like Bruce Lee said, train in boxing and wrestling for a year and you'll beat anyone


I'm not experienced in that stuf but I'm gradually understanding it a little bit more and more. I've been training in Aikido for about a year and have started Kendo 3 months ago. That's all.

[Endrik]

yup, most people don't know what to do when they are on the ground... even real tough guys... and people fall on to the ground in street fights a lot... that's why the whole MMA thing is the most helpful for real life situations... the main thing is mostly Brazilian JJ in their training plan so they can demolish the opponent on the ground easily.

[Endrik]

but I'm a Hippie... sort of... so I just run away

[Norton]

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[Rsmacker]

I was in a brawl not so long back, absolute fucking mayhem, people piling in grappling, gouging etc. I was on the bottom of a big pile of people all locked together, like a Tasmanian Devil had knotted us all up, and things were at that stage where everyone draws breath and decides what to do before kicking off again. I was immobilised, someone had my arm in a lock, when suddenly I noticed in the gloom, someone's crotch not far from my face. I reasoned it was within reach and lunged for it to give the pods a fucking good bite. "That'll teach him" I figured as I chomped down hard.
Next thing I know, I'm at the top of the pile, everyone is out cold and I'm the total victor.

It's amazing the strength you get when you bite your own bollocks........



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[Rsmacker]

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Ah, the old ones are the best, aren't they?