Kahler Tremolos

[slayer]

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I always wondered the same thing. I have played a few custom shop Hamers back in the day that had the Kahler Pro and a Floyd Nut and they weren`t modified, some players new which combo to go with and that is what I would do and will do on my next CS Jackson. Jack.

[Newc]

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Hey, when players like King and Mustaine are using Kahlers…………what do you have to lose?


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Tone, ultra-deep dives, respect [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/poke.gif[/img]

Seriously, if the Kahler was redesigned so that the stings locked at the bridge similar to a Floyd, and it had a Floyd-style nut, and the saddles themeselves were solid instead of rollers, I'd consider one. Yeah you can't do warbles (we're talking the old stud-mount type, not a Spyder or other 2-point pivot type or the 3310).

I've had old 80's Kahlers (back in the 80s, even), and the only flaws I found with them were the "double-nut" and not being able to lock the string at the bridge, and there's too many moving parts for the saddle - roller with a hole mounted on a clamp with a hole on a saddle arm with a hole. Someone used to make replacement parts that were one-piece solid saddles for Kahlers. Used to see the ads in GFTPM and Hit Parader.
Anyhoo, I like the Kahler's ability to get slide-style tones - I used to play "You Shook Me" (Zeppelin) with a Kahler, and it sounded as smooth as using a slide. A Floyd can't do that, even with 5 springs.

[MBreinin]

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Yes, I like Kahlers and they are very well made and engineered.

Mike

[El_Kabong]

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I prefer Kahlers. I have a fixed bridge on my Big Head modified hot rod flame model 7, for which I was the one to put Paul in touch with Kahler. The new Kahlers are very well made. I find the fit and finish to be cleaner and smoother than on original versions that I have seen.

I am not a Floyd fan. The saddles break too easily if over tightened. The saddles are different sizes so you have to keep a bunch on hand and they aren't cheap. I was forever tightening the screws on the back of the guitar. My bridges were always on an angle to get the set up right, though I never used a quarter under the edge of the plate.

I understand that I am in the minority, but a Kahler bridge wiith a Floyd nut sounds damn good to me.

[Big D]

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Floyd or bust. No Kahlers for me, they are craaaap.

Based on the mixed responses here though, it sounds like giving customers a choice would be a good thing.

[VitaminG]

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If I had the money for a new guitar, I'd love a red dual-hum strat with a flatmount Kahler & pointy Charvel headstock.

Primarily a Floyd user, but there is something inherently cool & old school about a Kahlered guitar.

[Sunbane]

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I have passed on many good deals because the guitar had a frickin' Kahler on it. They aren't for me.

However, to answer the question truthfully - would I pick the guitar with the Kahler or the one with the Floyd? Answer: None of them. Well, if I HAD TO pick one, it would be the Floyd - but since most modern Floyd designs are recessed, I'd probably just sell it once I'd found another old Charvel.

Why aren't any guitars offered with non-recessed Floyds these days? I'd like to see top-mounted Floyds with a "pull-up route" under it, like on the Charvel 650XL.

[Matt Crooks]

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I'd take a Kahler over a Floyd any day. For my next CS I wanted to get a 7 string with a trem. Kahler said it would be $650 for a 7 string Kahler, and I am seriously considering it.

[Shawn Lutz]

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nope!

[~K~]

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Funny .. the kahler guys don't rip the floyded product but the floyd guys rip the kahler product.. what's wrong with offering both ..it's all about flavor ..

[Tekky]

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Not all Floyd guys do.

[dinkyjacksonman]

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Kahler fixed bridge is great.
I like these better than Floyd. It allows me to adjust each string height.
Only wish they would offer a Black fixed bridge again so I can order something.

[toejam]

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I'll take the Floyd since it's not made of car parts. [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[jwoods986]

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I would definitely be interested in a new Jackson with a kahler (preferably with a floyd-style lock nut).

[Matt Crooks]

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Funny .. the kahler guys don't rip the floyded product but the floyd guys rip the kahler product..

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Insecurity maybe?