Chris Broderick leaves Ibanez and goes to Jackson

[church2224]

I couldn't agree with you more, well said.
... However, let's hope the USA select line survives and flourishes with more models and options than what's available now. Also it would be nice if Jackson one day opens up an online custom shop similar to Carvin's, where we can customize the orders based on the mix-and-match option, and leave the high-end orders for the Master Builders to take care of... If not, I'd still be happy with the USA select series so long as they include more body options and finishes and make them much easier to obtain.

BTW, I never hated Ibanez or ESP, some of them are nice guitars for sure and I'd like to own one or two down the line, however, when it comes to metal music, I think Jackson is the perfect fit for it, that's all.

Agreed man, if they did what Carvin does that would be perfect. For now, if you want a USA select, ask these guys-

http://www.cmcguitars.com/Jackson-USA-Guitars-s/36.htm

They pretty much get A LOT of models in stock lol., if you look at the first two pages all the models say "Ships in 1-2 Days" lol. Seems like in order to find a good USA models you got to find dealers like this, as well as Matt's Music, Fuller's, Piney Hills, and the Music Zoo (NEVER trust Guitar center or Musician's FIEND)

I know what you mean man. Since I started playing my three favorite guitar brands have been ESP, Ibanez, and Jackson. i have since added Carvin and PRS to that list, but yeah. Jackson is THE all around metal guitar

[DarkkWarriorr]

Well I do like Ibanez 2007 RG550rxx is a great guitar, plus I am ordering an S5470 prestige lol I know what you mean. Ibanez probably switched to Jackson because they offered more money. But do remember Chris switched from Ibanez to Jackson. Mainly artists switched to ESP, they seem to be a guitar GIANT when it comes to endorsers...

And for your previous argument, well said man. I mean all I was saying is they were trying to appeal to beginners with Jackson JS series in order to compete. But it is strange as to why at every Guitar Center, or store even, I go to ONLY stocks the JS series guitars. I remember back in 2007 and 2008 i could go to the Guitar Center right buy my school and they ALWAYS had at least one or two USA select Soloists in stock, as well as plenty of pro models. No thy do not even carry DK2s, just JS series models.

But I think it might be the economy, as Jackson is not the only brand doing it, other companies are doing the same, Even PRS. Unless it is a Gibson or Fender I rarely see a high end guitar from any brand in stock at any store. Last time I saw some high end Jacksons was a couple of USA Soloists, or any High end guitar besides Gibson or Fender for that matter in stock at a store was at a store called Music World in Colonial Heights, Virginia, just South of Richmond. It is depressing, to say the least...

You and I are both right in that Jackson needs to focus on Artists and artist signature models. Jackson only has a few signature models. The way I see it if Jackson is to get back on its feet in the long run they need to focus more on USA Select and Pro series Artist models, as well expand both lines as a whole. 7 strings, fixed bridge models, more body styles mas produced like the Death Kelly, Soloist Arch Tops, USA SLS, Extreme Rhodes, Double Rhodes, Kelly Stars, ect. They seem to be cutting back on a lot of models. My biggest fear is if they drop the USA select line all together, then I would lose faith in Jackson (Unless they move production to Japan, that would actually be a good move on their part, look at the Charvel Pro-Mods....)

I couldn't agree with you more, well said.
... However, let's hope the USA select line survives and flourishes with more models and options than what's available now. Also it would be nice if Jackson one day opens up an online custom shop similar to Carvin's, where we can customize the orders based on the mix-and-match option, and leave the high-end orders for the Master Builders to take care of... If not, I'd still be happy with the USA select series so long as they include more body options and finishes and make them much easier to obtain.

BTW, I never hated Ibanez or ESP, some of them are nice guitars for sure and I'd like to own one or two down the line, however, when it comes to metal music, I think Jackson is the perfect fit for it, that's all.

[church2224]

You seem to be a little bit more optimistic than I am, but I hope you're right though. I saw a number of metal bands/artists as of late switching from Jackson to Ibanez, and as we all know it's not because they build better guitars, and it's a little depressing IMO. Bringing a name like Broderick to the Jackson family is surly a great step, however, Jackson/Fender still need to make up for what they've lost over the years...

As for my previous argument, well, whether it's Fender or Jackson doing the promotions, they need to get their stuff together and promote some of their higher end models as much as they do with their lower-end budget models, and that what sells the brand's name, quality what counts here.
Ibanez for instant used Vai's, Satriani's, Gilbert's (and others) signature models to get their brand going and flooding the market, and not the $200-$300 plywood guitars they sell, sure most kids will pickup the cheap crap, but on the notion of having a great brand that their guitar heroes are playing.

And Jackson needs to do the same...

Well I do like Ibanez 2007 RG550rxx is a great guitar, plus I am ordering an S5470 prestige lol I know what you mean. Ibanez probably switched to Jackson because they offered more money. But do remember Chris switched from Ibanez to Jackson. Mainly artists switched to ESP, they seem to be a guitar GIANT when it comes to endorsers...

And for your previous argument, well said man. I mean all I was saying is they were trying to appeal to beginners with Jackson JS series in order to compete. But it is strange as to why at every Guitar Center, or store even, I go to ONLY stocks the JS series guitars. I remember back in 2007 and 2008 i could go to the Guitar Center right buy my school and they ALWAYS had at least one or two USA select Soloists in stock, as well as plenty of pro models. No thy do not even carry DK2s, just JS series models.

But I think it might be the economy, as Jackson is not the only brand doing it, other companies are doing the same, Even PRS. Unless it is a Gibson or Fender I rarely see a high end guitar from any brand in stock at any store. Last time I saw some high end Jacksons was a couple of USA Soloists, or any High end guitar besides Gibson or Fender for that matter in stock at a store was at a store called Music World in Colonial Heights, Virginia, just South of Richmond. It is depressing, to say the least...

You and I are both right in that Jackson needs to focus on Artists and artist signature models. Jackson only has a few signature models. The way I see it if Jackson is to get back on its feet in the long run they need to focus more on USA Select and Pro series Artist models, as well expand both lines as a whole. 7 strings, fixed bridge models, more body styles mas produced like the Death Kelly, Soloist Arch Tops, USA SLS, Extreme Rhodes, Double Rhodes, Kelly Stars, ect. They seem to be cutting back on a lot of models. My biggest fear is if they drop the USA select line all together, then I would lose faith in Jackson (Unless they move production to Japan, that would actually be a good move on their part, look at the Charvel Pro-Mods....)

[DarkkWarriorr]

To be *really* pedantic, I was always told a spell checker is something Gandalf or Harry Potter might use. Spelling checkers help with writing

Wanna be a smart-ass? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spell_checker

[Cliff]

To be *really* pedantic, I was always told a spell checker is something Gandalf or Harry Potter might use. Spelling checkers help with writing

[Misanthrope[ALWT]]

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good shit haha

[DarkkWarriorr]

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Okay big boy, color palette, feeling better now!

Darn, I hate spell checkers, sometimes I end up checking the wrong ones.

[RacerX]

Jackson still needs to work on their finishes and color pallet a little.

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[Nightbat]

I'm sure it's about logistics, whatever they are...

Logistics:
Where you get 'part X' needed in 2 weeks today, and 'part Y needed next week,...next week
Where you're told today, what you should have gotten yesterday, will arrive tomorrow
Where planners schedule deliveries in a pentagram route, where in a circle would cut deliverytime by 90%, (and/)or the first customer is in the back of the trailer and the last up front

[DarkkWarriorr]

From what I have been told Fender has little to do with anything Jackson does. All they did was buy them, move them to the Corona facility and give them money to expand the custom shop. Apparently it is a common misconception that they interfere with what Jackson does as a whole. I mean think about it. If Fender wanted to change Jackson they would have moved all the import models to Mexico and made them a lot more like Fender style guitars. I think they might be promoting the JS series is because they want to get a lot of younger players to play Jackson so that one day they can get the higher end pro and USA Select series models. It sucks yeah but they got to compete. Especially since a lot of people cannot pay for the higher end stuff and ESP, Dean and Ibanez are dominating the cheap shred guitar market. The reason why a lot of artists left was because Jackson started to treat them like regular customers and made them pay for gear. This is what I have been told from a couple of builders and shop owners who have dealt with FMIC, Jackson and guitars as a whole. No one buys them simply because no one plays them...

Getting Chris Broderick was the BIGGEST and BEST business decision Jackson has done in a while. Most guitars kids buy today are either Fender, Gibson or whatever their heroes are playing. So many people buy ESP because Children of Bodom, Metallica, Slayer, ect play them. So what do you do to make your company grow? Get a highly known player to play your gear. Chris is a popular artist, everyone wanted a signature model for him, he left Ibanez and was open, BOOM, get him as an artist, now who wants your guitars and is looking at your company? Everyone else. Just look at the thread on other forums about this guitar.

I predict by 2015 We will see Jackson growing significantly and as big as other companies and competing. A new "Golden Age" of Jackson is coming, just wait...

You seem to be a little bit more optimistic than I am, but I hope you're right though. I saw a number of metal bands/artists as of late switching from Jackson to Ibanez, and as we all know it's not because they build better guitars, and it's a little depressing IMO. Bringing a name like Broderick to the Jackson family is surly a great step, however, Jackson/Fender still need to make up for what they've lost over the years...

As for my previous argument, well, whether it's Fender or Jackson doing the promotions, they need to get their stuff together and promote some of their higher end models as much as they do with their lower-end budget models, and that what sells the brand's name, quality what counts here.
Ibanez for instant used Vai's, Satriani's, Gilbert's (and others) signature models to get their brand going and flooding the market, and not the $200-$300 plywood guitars they sell, sure most kids will pickup the cheap crap, but on the notion of having a great brand that their guitar heroes are playing.

And Jackson needs to do the same...

[church2224]

^ Yeah I hear ya, I don't know what the deal is with Fender, but the way I see it, they're not promoting Jacksons as they should, and once they do, they keep promoting the cheap looking JS series!!!!
This isn't what got me into Jackson! I saw Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman, and many other kickass Metal players holding USA, CS and PRO series in their ads, that's what got me started, not the low budget line, although I knew back then I couldn't afford the real deal, but hey it kept dreaming nonetheless...

Let's hope more metal bands get to play Jacksons instead of switching from Jacksons. Jackson guitars not only sound and feel better for the avid player, they even look a lot better. Eighties style or not, nothing looks as bad-ass as a Jackson for metal, nothing. However, Jackson still needs to work on their finishes and color pallet a little.

From what I have been told Fender has little to do with anything Jackson does. All they did was buy them, move them to the Corona facility and give them money to expand the custom shop. Apparently it is a common misconception that they interfere with what Jackson does as a whole. I mean think about it. If Fender wanted to change Jackson they would have moved all the import models to Mexico and made them a lot more like Fender style guitars. I think they might be promoting the JS series is because they want to get a lot of younger players to play Jackson so that one day they can get the higher end pro and USA Select series models. It sucks yeah but they got to compete. Especially since a lot of people cannot pay for the higher end stuff and ESP, Dean and Ibanez are dominating the cheap shred guitar market. The reason why a lot of artists left was because Jackson started to treat them like regular customers and made them pay for gear. This is what I have been told from a couple of builders and shop owners who have dealt with FMIC, Jackson and guitars as a whole. No one buys them simply because no one plays them...

Getting Chris Broderick was the BIGGEST and BEST business decision Jackson has done in a while. Most guitars kids buy today are either Fender, Gibson or whatever their heroes are playing. So many people buy ESP because Children of Bodom, Metallica, Slayer, ect play them. So what do you do to make your company grow? Get a highly known player to play your gear. Chris is a popular artist, everyone wanted a signature model for him, he left Ibanez and was open, BOOM, get him as an artist, now who wants your guitars and is looking at your company? Everyone else. Just look at the thread on other forums about this guitar.

I predict by 2015 We will see Jackson growing significantly and as big as other companies and competing. A new "Golden Age" of Jackson is coming, just wait...

[DarkkWarriorr]

^ Yeah I hear ya, I don't know what the deal is with Fender, but the way I see it, they're not promoting Jacksons as they should, and once they do, they keep promoting the cheap looking JS series!!!!
This isn't what got me into Jackson! I saw Dave Mustaine, Marty Friedman, and many other kickass Metal players holding USA, CS and PRO series in their ads, that's what got me started, not the low budget line, although I knew back then I couldn't afford the real deal, but hey it kept dreaming nonetheless...

Let's hope more metal bands get to play Jacksons instead of switching from Jacksons. Jackson guitars not only sound and feel better for the avid player, they even look a lot better. Eighties style or not, nothing looks as bad-ass as a Jackson for metal, nothing. However, Jackson still needs to work on their finishes and color pallet a little.

[church2224]

I'm sure it's about logistics, whatever they are...

You would think that if they had better "logistics" they could compete with companies like ESP, Ibanez and Schecter a lot better and be more common, I mean Jackson is well known but idk if they even sell or even make as many guitars as the others guys do....They seems to be making a slow and steady comeback though...

[DarkkWarriorr]

Good point. Jackson does take its time with their guitars lol. I know you an endorser and all, but my question is WHY do they take so long with these things....? I mean a lot of people like Jackson and want to see new and more models, why don't they just do it/

I'm sure it's about logistics, whatever they are...

[church2224]

It's Jackson - it can take a while. I knew about the SLAT3-7 for a year before it turned up. If there is a Pro series of this, they're certainly not going to announce it when they haven't even got the USAs out the door yet, are they?

Good point. Jackson does take its time with their guitars lol. I know you an endorser and all, but my question is WHY do they take so long with these things....? I mean a lot of people like Jackson and want to see new and more models, why don't they just do it/