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    Dear Tarja,
    It`s time to choose whether the story of Nightwish ends here or whether it will still continue an undetermined period of time. We`ve been working with this creation for 9 years and we are not ready to give up yet. Nightwish is a way of life, something to live for, and we`re certain we can`t let it go.

    Equally certain is the fact that we cannot go on with you and Marcelo any longer. During the last year something sad happened, which I`ve been going over in my head every single day, morning and night. Your attitude and behavior don`t go with Nightwish anymore. There are characteristics I would never have believed to see in my old dear friend.
    People who don`t talk with each other for a year do not belong in the same band.

    We are involved in an industry where the business-side of things is a necessary evil and something to worry about all the time. We are also a band which has always done music from the heart, because of friendship and the music itself. The mental satisfaction should always be more important than money! Nightwish is a band, it`s an emotion.
    To you, unfortunately, business, money, and things that have nothing to do with those emotions have become much more important. You feel that you have sacrificed yourself and your musical career for Nightwish, rather than thinking what it has given to you.
    This attitude was clearly shown to me in the two things you said to me in an airplane in Toronto: ”I don`t need Nightwish anymore.” and ”Remember, Tuomas, that I could leave this band at any time, giving you only one day`s warning in advance”.
    I can`t simply write any more songs for you to sing.

    You have said yourself that you are merely a ”guest musician” in Nightwish. Now that visit ends and we will continue Nightwish with a new female vocalist.
    We`re sure this is an equally big relief to you as it is for us. We have all been feeling bad long enough.

    You told us that no matter what, the next Nightwish album will be your last one. However, the rest of us want to continue as long as the fire burns. So there`s no sense in doing that next album with you, either.
    The four of us have been going over this situation countless times and we have realized that this is the thing we want to do in life. It´s all we can do. In December 2004, in Germany, you said that you will never tour again for more than two weeks at a time. You also said that we can forget about U.S. and Australia because the fees and the sizes of venues are too small.

    In interviews I`ve mentioned that if Tarja leaves, that would be the end of the band. I understand that people will think this way. Nightwish is, however, a scenery of my soul and I`m not ready to let go because of one person. A person who wants to focus her creativity to somewhere else, a person whose values don`t match mine.

    We were never bothered by the fact that you didn`t participate in writing/arranging songs, you never in 9 years came to rehearse the songs with us before going to the studio. Not the fact that while on tour you always wanted to fly, separately from us with your husband. Not the fact that you are an undisputable front image of the band.
    We accepted and felt ok about everything except greed, underestimating the fans, and breaking promises. It was agreed by the five of us that Nightwish would be the priority in everything that we do during 2004-2005. Still so many things were more important to you. The ultimate example being the already sold-out show in Oslo, which you wanted to cancel because you needed to rehearse for your solo concerts, meet frieds and go to the movies. Those were the words Marcelo used in an e-mail explaining the cancellation. This being just one example of so many. I couldn`t think of a worse way of being selfish and dismissing our fans.

    Nightwish is a way of life and a job with many obligations. To each other and to the fans. With you we can`t take care of those duties anymore.

    Deep within we don`t know which one of you drove us to this point. Somehow Marcelo has changed you from the lovely girl you were into a diva, who doesn`t think or act the way she used to. You are too sure of your irreplaceableness and status.

    It`s obvious that you blame your stress and misery on us four. And you think we don`t respect or listen to you. Belive us; We have always had the uppermost respect towards you as a wonderful vocalist and as a friend. And very often during the past couple of years the plans were made according to your decisions only. You were always the only one who wanted more money from the shows.
    This ”compensation and more money from everything” –attitude is the fact that we are most disappointed of!

    We wish that from now on you will listen to your heart instead of Marcelo. Cultural differences combined with greed, opportunism and love is a dangerous combination. Do not wither yourself.

    This decision is not something we are especially proud of but you gave us no choice. The gap between us is too wide. And the decision is made by us four unanimously. We are beyond the point where things could be settled by talking.

    All the best for your life and career,



    Tuomas



    Emppu Jukka Marco


    Ps. This is an open letter for everybody.


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    Didn't see it coming.. I always enjoyed nightwish, especially wishmaster and oceanborn. I wonder who they'll get to replace her and if nightwish will still be nightwish without Tarja's voice..
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  • #2
    Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

    Not my style of music but, this is sad news. Hope they'll find a better vocalist to work with...
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    • #3
      Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

      wow, I knew tarja wasn't really all that into the metal-thing, but it's unbelieveable she didn't show up on rehearsal?!?
      must have been horrible for the band to work with her in some point...

      they should let marco sing!! he's got a great voice IMO.

      nightwish was stagnating (is there any word like that? [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] ) anyway. I barely heard a difference between the albums.
      maybe a line up chage will bring them forward again.
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      • #4
        Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

        Tarja was Nightwish.
        "Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
        Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!

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        • #5
          Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

          I'd still hit it. I can just imagine her hitting a high note while I'm behind her.

          I'll agree that they should let Marco sing. His voice seems to go very well with their style of music. Different than Tarja yeah, but I think it still goes well with their style.

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          • #6
            Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

            [ QUOTE ]
            Tarja was Nightwish.

            [/ QUOTE ]

            Actually, Tuomas Holopainen (keyboards) is Nightwish, (if any one person "is") as he does almost all of the songwrighting/lyrics.

            What good is a nice voice singing crappy songs anyway?
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            • #7
              Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

              I hope that they can find a replacement. Tarja has a great voice, but she was not the creative force driving the music. Just watch their DVD (not the live one) and you'll see how much the keyboard player is responsible for their existence as a band. Who knows, maybe with some new blood around they will break out of their recent creative slump.

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              • #8
                Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

                I think there enough vocalists out there that can give her a run for her money. It would be cool if they could get somebodywho wants to throw something into the creative process, too.

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                • #9
                  Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

                  I have no idea who you are talking about.
                  Carry on!

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                  • #10
                    Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

                    I'll BUY their next release (without her), even if it sucks! And will do so for sheer support of those guys for standing up to a selfish bitch that was undermining their heartfelt efforts.

                    You have to hand it to them, and I am proud of their decision.

                    Selfish, self centered, self absorbed, egocentric bitches have no place controlling the effort of good men...

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                    • #11
                      Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

                      [img]/images/graemlins/sleep.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/sleep.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/sleep.gif[/img] who cares
                      I'll go and listen to Hanoi Rocks
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                      • #12
                        Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

                        what attracted to me to Nightwish was Tarja..sad that she's being that way..

                        I really do enjoy their music along with my family..my wife loves her voice and the band..

                        Marco is awesome ..his Tarot band Kicks major ass..and I thought he gave Nightwish alot of "weight" good bassist and singer when he joined (some complained he was too gruff) ..I like his style on bass..I don't say that much about bassist..but what he play really fits the music..he speaks my language when I hear him play..

                        I think Liv of Theatre of Tragedy would be a great replacement for her..while keeping that Nightwish formula..there is also a girl from a band called Rain fell within that comes to mind...same operatic style and range.
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                        • #13
                          Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

                          That's a real shame, i love her voice. I read in interviews in magazines for the past few months with nightwish and you could see there was some sort of tension between them. I'm glad the guys are sticking to their guns and doing it for the fans and for themselves. Good on them [img]/images/graemlins/toast.gif[/img]
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                          • #14
                            Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

                            [ QUOTE ]
                            what attracted to me to Nightwish was Tarja..sad that she's being that way..

                            I really do enjoy their music along with my family..my wife loves her voice and the band..

                            Marco is awesome ..his Tarot band Kicks major ass..and I thought he gave Nightwish alot of "weight" good bassist and singer when he joined (some complained he was too gruff) ..I like his style on bass..I don't say that much about bassist..but what he play really fits the music..he speaks my language when I hear him play..

                            [/ QUOTE ]
                            I agree. I don't enjoy the pre-Marco Nightwish nearly as much. His playing has so much drive. The older stuff is still good, but I listen to it now and it seems that something is missing.

                            Plus I'm a big fan of Tarot. [img]/images/graemlins/headbang.gif[/img]
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                            • #15
                              Re: Tarja got kicked out of Nightwish

                              Wow I'm a bit suprised, but kinda saw this comming.
                              She has always had other things pending
                              Even tho Thomas does all the writing
                              I feel she was the voice of Nightwish
                              And actully since Nightwish's fame there are many
                              Nightwish type bands, Opera Singers fronting Metal bands

                              I will always be a Tarja fan. The passion she sings with blows me away.
                              Check out From Wishes to Eternity DVD this is an Outstanding Performance
                              I would guess to say not many singers can even come close to singing

                              I'm sure Nightwish will find a great vocalist.
                              It seems Opera Singer who sing Metal are all over Europe

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