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    Yo...I'm trying to retrieve some info on this guitar. My friend who owns a local music store is trying to sell this on consignment. The gentleman who brought it in claims its a prototype which is probably true. It's a beautiful guitar. It appears the body is an arched dkmg body, but the contours on the horns are a little more exaggerated. It also looks like its got an reverse slsmg headstock, which I have never seen. Beautiful blue flamed maple body. Another thing I haven't seen is that it has a wilkinson bridge. He wasn't sure what the pickups are, but believes they are dimarzio's. Also, the neck on this thing is f'ing fat. Like 59 Gibby fat. It's the fatest neck i've felt on a superstrat. If anyone could give me a ballpark figure on this it would be great. It is also a USA made jackson.


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    Interesting...it looks like a nice guitar but its got a lot of things that are very "un-Jackson" like.
    I'm no expert but it looks like a knock off to me.
    Value? If it sounds like god and plays great...6, 7 bills tops.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dog Boy View Post
      Interesting...it looks like a nice guitar but its got a lot of things that are very "un-Jackson" like.
      Why? Might be a proto to the AT1 and import AT2. The original had a 4+2 headstock, though. Can't say I've ever seen it with the reverse headstock or 24 frets.
      http://audiozone.dk/cm/displayimage.php?album=54&pos=14

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      • #4
        Looks like a 97ish AT1 to me.
        http://audiozone.dk/cm/displayimage.php?album=54&pos=14
        too slow again!

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        • #5
          Yeah, there are some things thats not very Jackson-like, but who knows. If it's a true prototype, then some unfamiliar things are to be expected. It's really hard to put a price on these types of things cuz there is really nothing to compare them to. As far as it's authenticity, I believe it is a jackson made guitar. It's got some "better than average" parts that would make no sense to put them on a knock off or fake.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by toejam View Post
            Why? Might be a proto to the AT1 and import AT2. The original had a 4+2 headstock, though. Can't say I've ever seen it with the reverse headstock or 24 frets.
            http://audiozone.dk/cm/displayimage.php?album=54&pos=14

            http://audiozone.dk/cm/displayimage.php?album=55&pos=4
            I think you hit the nail on the head there!

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            • #7
              Yeah, there are some things thats not very Jackson-like, but who knows.
              Why just because it doesn't have a pointy headstock? It's similar to the slsmg that is being made now.
              I thing it's a custom shop version of the AT1.

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              • #8
                If not a proto, someone could have ordered a custom shop like that.
                I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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                • #9
                  The guy is trying to sell this one for $1200.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rich#6 View Post
                    Why just because it doesn't have a pointy headstock? It's similar to the slsmg that is being made now.
                    I thing it's a custom shop version of the AT1.
                    I explaining to the gentleman above that just because it has something new or unseen, to not discount it from being authentic. I think you're right about it being a custom shop.

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                    • #11
                      Is it safe to say that AT1's now sell for the $400-$500 range?

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                      • #12
                        They don't come up for sale very often, so there's no way to judge what they normally sell for. I'd be willing to bet it was a Prototype, depending on how close San Marcos is to Ft Worth (former HQ where many import and USA protos were sent for review/verification/rejection). The reversed headstock might be the only thing different from the final production model, or it might have serious issues that are not covered under warranty and could not be fixed (i.e. warped/twisted neck, bad truss rod, etc).

                        If there are not structural issues with it, and you wanted that particular model to play and own, pay what the guy's asking. If you're looking for a cheap score from a clueless seller hoping to strike it rich, go buy a lottery ticket.
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                        • #13
                          Actually the guitar is in Wichita Falls. I just moved and haven't changed my location. I was asking on behalf of a friend, cuz neither of us have witnessed a Jackson like that. I think that guys asking price is a little steep and he is putting too much implied value by claiming that it is a prototype. Maybe if he had some documentation for it, but the most recent AT-1 sales i've seen were for no more than $500. So I figured it could possibly sale for the price of a custom shop AT-1, maybe $700-$800 max.

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                          • #14
                            There is a guy on my local craigslist here in new york that has been trying to sell this jackson that looks close to this one for like 6 months now. He wants 540 for it, and cant get a bite. I either cough it up to the economy, or the guitar blows.

                            http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/msg/1611707934.html

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by steviekool View Post
                              There is a guy on my local craigslist here in new york that has been trying to sell this jackson that looks close to this one for like 6 months now. He wants 540 for it, and cant get a bite. I either cough it up to the economy, or the guitar blows.

                              http://newyork.craigslist.org/lgi/msg/1611707934.html
                              Well, that CL ad is for an SLSMG, which is a common model and plentiful on the used market.

                              Another possibility on the mystery AT is that it's a parts mutt. Kevin Easton used to sell AT/SLS necks on his website, although I couldn't say if any were 24-fret with a reversed headstock. The AT1 had a blank ebony board and the AT2 was rosewood with white dots, so any such neck would have been a one-off. But then again, my old AT2T is floating around somewhere with abalone inlays, so you never know.

                              It probably is a custom or prototype, and a nice-looking one.
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