EVH "Frankie" Replica to be at NAMM

[LastInLine]

Yes I think Ed will, (just like Jimi H) the rest of the players you mentioned? No.

Exactly. Groundbreakers/innovators are usually guaranteed immortality.

[777]

Again I love ed, he has his place, and he invented a great many things... Will he be remembered Forever? Well Will Dime? Will bucket head? Petrucci? Malmstien? Nah,

Yes I think Ed will, (just like Jimi H) the rest of the players you mentioned? No.

[PittJitsu]

EVH is basically the Babe Ruth of electric rock guitar. His legacy will live on as long as Rock n' Roll lives on. It will be people like us who were hooked on the electric guitar the first time we saw/heard one (every generation has them) who will keep it alive, not those Playstation kids you mention. I think the "Frankie" replica will be worth WAY more than 25k in the future.

Only time can settle this tiff, but I will tell you my experience so far with other products.. Vintage baseball memorabilia. when a Player is at his prime ala Mark Maguire<spell? You Can count on seeing his rookie card, balls bats and jerseys all on the net and the TV selling for Thousands.. and sure now all those that remembered him are alive and making $ ready to buy the memory of that guy hitting a ball at a game they where at. But go look how expensive a babe Ruth year player's items are. Not unaffordable..WHY? because the target Generation for that person is Gone, dead and buried, well almost all of them.. Look at The band Kiss, I own lots of Kiss items and Let me say that there was a time when Ebay was young that A set of Kiss dolls went for over a grand,, Now? $300. why? they are basically done. Now Are there exceptions? sure, there are. All dead people for one thing... And the other thing to consider when investing in Memorabilia is Will EVH REALLY cross over for generations to come? was he a Well liked Person? Does his talents span across different types of music. NO! See Nobody knows if Stevie Ray Vaughn ever hit his wife, drank his liver away, or abused his band.. With many these things count as to which person they portray as a "hero" or a "GOD" to their new born kids... Again I love ed, he has his place, and he invented a great many things... Will he be remembered Forever? Well Will Dime? Will bucket head? Petrucci? Malmstien? Nah,

Sorry to say.. That Playstation is going to Do way more for the next Gen then playing ANY instrument will.. Sadly Kids have no patience thanks to technology, and they want to know things now... Nobody is going to want to take 5 years to learn anything as antiquated as an instrument. Thats My bet.

[vondran]

[QUOTE=VinceV;858658] At the show this guitar was a huge draw everytime I went up to the Fender room, there was a crowd around this thing, and from what I got from the conversations I could pick up, lots and lots of people thought it was the coolest thing they had seen.
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If GC was smart, they'd put one of these front-and-center in each of their high traffic stores. In a glass case right in the center of their sales floor that your can see right when you walk in. They'd definitely get value from the added foot traffic.

[AK47]

I heard from Guitar Showcase San Jose Ca. as well as two GC in the area call for yourself I know sales people BS alot but I heard the same thing from quiet a few different local stores.

[Shawn]

Appartley these are selling very good and at retail in lots of instances.

Apparently how? Where did you hear that?

I can STILL buy one at cost.

[AK47]

Appartley these are selling very good and at retail in lots of instances.

[LastInLine]

Is ed Really going to have sales Pull Like Clapton and for how long? In a few years No kids brought up on Playstation and Ipods will even know of eddie. The handfull of welthy 80's guys are going to be in there twilight before this guitar matures.

EVH is basically the Babe Ruth of electric rock guitar. His legacy will live on as long as Rock n' Roll lives on. It will be people like us who were hooked on the electric guitar the first time we saw/heard one (every generation has them) who will keep it alive, not those Playstation kids you mention. I think the "Frankie" replica will be worth WAY more than 25k in the future.

[PittJitsu]

That was another big reason, I decided to not go in on this guitar. With 300 being made, everyone who wants one will have one. For that price the guitar should have been a very limited edition of maybe around 20. That way there would be a demand for them, people who wanted them wouldn't have been able to get em. I can't imagine these guitars will hold their value, much less appreciate. Who in 20+ years is gonna still want one? A bunch of 65 year olds? If anything happens to Ed the next day there will be 200+ of these for sale, so much for "rare".

Or The opposite, No Ed, No new Stuff from ed, Demand usually goes up. Sad that you and or your band usually make it big right when your dead.

[VinceV]

I don't care what your financial position is, its not a smart spend IMO. Like baseball cards, and bands Like Kiss, the demographic of EVH fans has certainly hit their financial peak, and then some maybe. Is ed Really going to have sales Pull Like Clapton and for how long? In a few years No kids brought up on Playstation and Ipods will even know of eddie. The handfull of welthy 80's guys are going to be in there twilight before this guitar matures.

That was another big reason, I decided to not go in on this guitar. With 300 being made, everyone who wants one will have one. For that price the guitar should have been a very limited edition of maybe around 20. That way there would be a demand for them, people who wanted them wouldn't have been able to get em. I can't imagine these guitars will hold their value, much less appreciate. Who in 20+ years is gonna still want one? A bunch of 65 year olds? If anything happens to Ed the next day there will be 200+ of these for sale, so much for "rare".

[Guitardude86]

Read my signature

[PittJitsu]

yup, according to Ed, Frankie was a Wayne Charvel body. A 2nd but nun-the-less a Charvel body.........

A boogie body second and a seconds neck from the bottom of a pile...

Hey all, I'm new here, and mostly collect Kramers, but I will say this.. I have a few select orig strat heads, and I also have the Newer 25th anniversaries, and two bulls-eyes, one that was on here when the owner added a second pup and had it painted red. Well my point is, that I see no loss in quality from pre fender to post fender Charvel. I truly don't. With Kramers, sure, Jackson's I know nothing about, but Even fender pros will tell you that selling your original 60's strat and replacing it with a custom shop relic is a painless transition, and usually you will even end up with a better playing instrument then your original.

Next, Ed's geetar.

Why can they replicate the feel tone and finish of a 50 year old strat for around 4k retail yet this Mutt is costing over 20K. And remember there are many people who can tell you what a 57 strat feels like to critique the finished product, but who is EVER going to touch Frankie and say its more like this or that? who knows what your holding... Again, I cant see a custom shop costing 4-5 grand tops, at retail, and then needing to add 15 grand more for anything else then Hype.

I don't care what your financial position is, its not a smart spend IMO. Like baseball cards, and bands Like Kiss, the demographic of EVH fans has certainly hit their financial peak, and then some maybe. Is ed Really going to have sales Pull Like Clapton and for how long? In a few years No kids brought up on Playstation and Ipods will even know of eddie. The handfull of welthy 80's guys are going to be in there twilight before this guitar matures.

[777]

yup, according to Ed, Frankie was a Wayne Charvel body. A 2nd but nun-the-less a Charvel body.........

[Hossman]

Frankie Body is 100% Charvel -Quote

Quote from Tom Anderson " That was a Charvel body, heavy ash, made from the tooling that Dave Schecter set up for Wayne. had a quarter under the Floyd, maybe to make it sit level. the bridge was a full quarter inch too far back, never could have intonated. I moved the bridge up to where it should have been, I left the quarter. we made a Hocky stick neck for it. Benny, of the shop, painted it to match the old one. When we put the guitar back together, I read the pickup to see what it was. It read open on an ohm meter. I about died, I thought I had broken the famous pickup. Turns out it was fine, really weak, really bright. we took turns trying to sound like ed playing through my 4-10 Bassman. We didn't get close.
Hossman, I checked out the site, and you've got some great history there. The one thing I saw missing was that Dave Schecter was down there hooking up some of the machines and making copies of his templates for Wayne to use. The Van Halen body was made from those. Dave's templates had a bump in the neck pocket where the tension rod is. That's a way to tell where they came from."
Benny from the shop said "The guitar sounded really good through the 4-10 Bassman even though the pickup was super weak."

jacksoncharvelworld.net

[Hossman]

100% Charvel Body

I don't know what the big deal is either, the original Frankie was neither Fender or Charvel, so what difference does it make?

The Boogie Bodies not a Charvel thing again..
Wayne taught Lynn, Wayne distributed the guitar as Fender is doing today..
Does not really matter if Wayne built the body or not. not really..But the Fact is Wayne did build the body..That guitar is more Charvel than most others under the Jackson ownership..
FACT - Wayne played and major part in the guitar.....I just like truth and facts...and I beleive in Tom Anderson's assement of the body..Tom did some work on the guitar for Eddie...Tom knows how to ID a body that was made from Schecters templates and tooling setup for Wayne and he has shared those facts...A solid statement from Tom Anderson and I believe Tom is straight up 100% correct..... Tom said he could not ID the neck but the body he is sure.

Same goes for the VHII. Wayne Charvel --

I am not a big Wayne Charvel fan- But a Charvel Mfg. Fan 100%

All Facts

Cheers