EVH "Frankie" Replica to be at NAMM

[VinceV]

Thats a great question Vince......

You know what? I couldnt give 2 shits what anyone thinks about how I spend my money. Let them talk. They always have and they always will. Jealousy runs rampant on these boards. Then you have the "well, its only a piece of wood~I could make 10 of them for that much". Yeah, but noone gives a shit if you make one.

Then there's the 'well, you can barely play, you dont deserve that cool guitar". I have gotten that before, just like Jose states above. Of course, my thoughts are, Yeah, I am not as good as you. But I play every night, take lessons twice a week, and oh yeah, actually have a Masters degree, including a minor in music. As a matter of fact, I play all day long now, because I dont have to work. While you were honing those awesome shred skills of yours, I was working hard in school and doing well for myself.


The crowd that says "well, I COULD buy one if I wanted to"....Thats BS too.

Either you like it alot, you pay for it, end of story, or you him-haw and say "well, I could." "Well, I could" means there are probably consequences if you did.

Anyone who is honest with themselves and really dug EVH would love to own one. That's a fact. The rest are just making excuses.



My .02

LOL Shawn

I knew I could count on you to come in and set things straight. I'm with you in that at the core it's the jealous factor plain and simple(I was trying to not be so blunt, but fuck it). I remember when the EVH guitars came out, there was a group of, "those stupid things are a waste of money.". Anytime someone buys something expensive there will always be those who think it's dumb and feell a need to say it.

Really at the ned of the day, how many guys here on this forum, play and make a real living out of it. How many players on this board have put of stuff that anyone else has heard on the radio or played in venues, or have influenced othes to pick up a guitar, or whos names or style the average player would recognise. Then why would any of these guys need a several thousand dollar professional instrument, or a CS guitar. They don't, but why in the hell can't they have one if they want one, and it makes them happy. I'm always happy for the person who post a pic of their new/just got guitar. Doesn't matter if I like it for myself or not. I guess others can't always be happy for others

[VinceV]

I will tell you why.
First, I can afford one of "those" if I really wanted to do it. I have the means, but the whole concept is incomprehensible to me.
It is a guitar made out of the same wood, paint, hardware, pickups, strings and skilled labor that would make a $2,000 guitar on the same bench, probably on the same day.

Aside from the moral and splurging issues it is the fact that on the very core, time after time, we are telling the manufacturers "sure! we'll pay whatever you want us to pay". Look at Gibson, raise the prices and sales go up! does that make sense? It is the false sense of exclusivity that drives idiots (some can barely play) to a material object while ruining it to the rest of the "average" player.
Look a at Brazilian board Fender Strat +$5k or any other CS Strat of any special cool feature +$3k and up. While the virtually the same guitar could be had for about $1k.
The differential in cost is not a true material and labor one, but one based on market willingness to pay. A market inflated and skewed for the "average" player by the fool who pays through the nose for a guitar that somehow will rekindle some memory of lost time.

I am not naive enough to think that we will all raise against the machine and stop buying them, therefore sending a message. I ain't going to happen.
It is just a fact of this economy and one we must live with. Still, we all have opinions.

What was the first thing FMIC did when they re-introduced Charvel. Set a new bar for Charvels with the FMT Anniversary Charvel at $4k. Say what?! a single hum, vintage hardware albeit pretty wood axe. Why?
No reason for you to know, just setting a new bar for CS Charvels. The most basic, flat out rockin' guitar out there. No OFR, no complicated wiring or pups, no intricate Learn artwork, no special case (God knows they don't to this day), no special about anything but the FMT top and BE neck. For $4k.

To many people $2000 guitars are incomprehensible, when a guitar 1/10th the price will work. Why pay 2K for a guitar with stripes, when you can buy a old guitar and some cans of paint and do it yourself for a few 100.


These guitars are not for the masses, they are for the person who is a huge fan, and playing ability has no factor, and why should it. How many people are gonna get these and play them out at gigs? That isn't the purpose of these. Why it may seem 'stupid" to some, it's not to the people that buy them. If they enjoy them. Whether it be looking at it in a case on a wall, or plugged into an amp in their room. Then good for them. I see lots of guitars on these forums that make no sense to me, but I would never call the person who bought it/ordered it names. If it's what they want, then good for them.

Also how does a limited hand made expensive run ruin it for the average player? If any of the guitar comapnies decided that they were gonna price all the items in the 10K range, they would be outta business pretty dam quick, or go from a company of 100s to a 1 or 2 man shop. Making a few guitars a year.

[Shawn]

I'm always curious why everyone always wants to call the people who buy the se limited or expensive guitars names like idiots/fools. If you want one and can afford them, then why are you a fool for getting one? Are guys who buy PRS private stock stuff of any other 10k + guitar idiots? I mean if your gonna go that far a First Act(after a setup lol)from Walmart will get the job done as much a Jackson, so why spend hundreds or several thousand when a $50 piece of plywood will do.

Thats a great question Vince......

You know what? I couldnt give 2 shits what anyone thinks about how I spend my money. Let them talk. They always have and they always will. Jealousy runs rampant on these boards. Then you have the "well, its only a piece of wood~I could make 10 of them for that much". Yeah, but noone gives a shit if you make one.

Then there's the 'well, you can barely play, you dont deserve that cool guitar". I have gotten that before, just like Jose states above. Of course, my thoughts are, Yeah, I am not as good as you. But I play every night, take lessons twice a week, and oh yeah, actually have a Masters degree, including a minor in music. As a matter of fact, I play all day long now, because I dont have to work. While you were honing those awesome shred skills of yours, I was working hard in school and doing well for myself.


The crowd that says "well, I COULD buy one if I wanted to"....Thats BS too.

Either you like it alot, you pay for it, end of story, or you him-haw and say "well, I could." "Well, I could" means there are probably consequences if you did.

Anyone who is honest with themselves and really dug EVH would love to own one. That's a fact. The rest are just making excuses.



My .02

[shreddermon]

I'd love one myself but, if the figures being thrown around are in the ballpark, I couldn't justify spending that much $$$ on something like that. Some others can and will. We should all get over that. It's called supply and demand.

I mean, does it make it right if I pull out a key and scratch a dude's $100k Porsche, just because I can't afford one? Especially if there's a rich, vapid attention-whore behind the wheel doesn't have the skills to drive it on the track in the first place? No, it doesn't. And do you really think there's $100k worth of manufacturing and performance in the Porsche? Of course not - probably half of it's price is just the "rich guy exlusivity" premium. So I'll go out and buy a Mustang GT - which will match 95% of the Porsche's performance for 1/4 the price - and wish the other guy no ill will. Cool for him, cool for me. Might even drag race, if we happen to end up at the same stoplight.

[Joe_Steeler]

I'm always curious why everyone always wants to call the people who buy the se limited or expensive guitars names like idiots/fools. If you want one and can afford them, then why are you a fool for getting one? Are guys who buy PRS private stock stuff of any other 10k + guitar idiots? I mean if your gonna go that far a First Act(after a setup lol)from Walmart will get the job done as much a Jackson, so why spend hundreds or several thousand when a $50 piece of plywood will do.

I will tell you why.
First, I can afford one of "those" if I really wanted to do it. I have the means, but the whole concept is incomprehensible to me.
It is a guitar made out of the same wood, paint, hardware, pickups, strings and skilled labor that would make a $2,000 guitar on the same bench, probably on the same day.

Aside from the moral and splurging issues it is the fact that on the very core, time after time, we are telling the manufacturers "sure! we'll pay whatever you want us to pay". Look at Gibson, raise the prices and sales go up! does that make sense? It is the false sense of exclusivity that drives idiots (some can barely play) to a material object while ruining it to the rest of the "average" player.
Look a at Brazilian board Fender Strat +$5k or any other CS Strat of any special cool feature +$3k and up. While the virtually the same guitar could be had for about $1k.
The differential in cost is not a true material and labor one, but one based on market willingness to pay. A market inflated and skewed for the "average" player by the fool who pays through the nose for a guitar that somehow will rekindle some memory of lost time.

I am not naive enough to think that we will all raise against the machine and stop buying them, therefore sending a message. I ain't going to happen.
It is just a fact of this economy and one we must live with. Still, we all have opinions.

What was the first thing FMIC did when they re-introduced Charvel. Set a new bar for Charvels with the FMT Anniversary Charvel at $4k. Say what?! a single hum, vintage hardware albeit pretty wood axe. Why?
No reason for you to know, just setting a new bar for CS Charvels. The most basic, flat out rockin' guitar out there. No OFR, no complicated wiring or pups, no intricate Learn artwork, no special case (God knows they don't to this day), no special about anything but the FMT top and BE neck. For $4k.

[Robert Burns]

Good point! :-) I just wish i was an "Idiot too!"

If we all had an extra $100K sitting around we would own 4!

I'm always curious why everyone always wants to call the people who buy the se limited or expensive guitars names like idiots/fools. If you want one and can afford them, then why are you a fool for getting one? Are guys who buy PRS private stock stuff of any other 10k + guitar idiots? I mean if your gonna go that far a First Act(after a setup lol)from Walmart will get the job done as much a Jackson, so why spend hundreds or several thousand when a $50 piece of plywood will do.

[5074charvel]

I agree there´s a lot of irony in it. I thought the recent series was a bit on the high side but it was him and graaphics are expensive to produce. But this limited 100 run is not apealing to me.

I´d rather buy parts, tape and rattle cans for 20k and have the fun of my life building lots of guitars.

[Szostak]

I'm always curious why everyone always wants to call the people who buy the se limited or expensive guitars names like idiots/fools. If you want one and can afford them, then why are you a fool for getting one? Are guys who buy PRS private stock stuff of any other 10k + guitar idiots? I mean if your gonna go that far a First Act(after a setup lol)from Walmart will get the job done as much a Jackson, so why spend hundreds or several thousand when a $50 piece of plywood will do.

They call them idiots because they can't afford it themselves... I do it all the time

[VinceV]

FMIC wants to bring in the profit margin like Gibson does. Gibson methodology = sell same shit guitar for MORE money and idiots WILL pay. Yep, 100 guitars. For now.

I'm always curious why everyone always wants to call the people who buy the se limited or expensive guitars names like idiots/fools. If you want one and can afford them, then why are you a fool for getting one? Are guys who buy PRS private stock stuff of any other 10k + guitar idiots? I mean if your gonna go that far a First Act(after a setup lol)from Walmart will get the job done as much a Jackson, so why spend hundreds or several thousand when a $50 piece of plywood will do.

[memberzonly]

I cannot believe they're going to only make 100 of them and price them out of the everyman's reach.

This is so annoying. First Blackie, now this.

I mean what's the point? Some kind of rich man pissing contest?

"Look how much we can charge for a guitar! Whopeeee!!!"

$20K? I think I'd rather buy a new car with that kind of money rather than a guitar.....

FMIC wants to bring in the profit margin like Gibson does. Gibson methodology = sell same shit guitar for MORE money and idiots WILL pay. Yep, 100 guitars. For now.

[Jason1212]

That's him. So it appears that someone fromt the J/C side of the house has made these gutiars.

[Guitardude86]

I cannot believe they're going to only make 100 of them and price them out of the everyman's reach.

This is so annoying. First Blackie, now this.

I mean what's the point? Some kind of rich man pissing contest?

"Look how much we can charge for a guitar! Whopeeee!!!"

$20K? I think I'd rather buy a new car with that kind of money rather than a guitar.....

And he paid like $180 or something for his parts mutt back in the day..
The irony

[shreddermon]

Maybe. Between the hair tied back or loose, I can't tell, though.

BTW, that's my zebra guitar that he's holding.

[Jason1212]

Who's the dude in the video with EVH? He looks very familiar, but I can't place the name.

Isnt that Chip?

[ProjectX]

1978 actually

Ummm....no. 1971 like I said. It is a fact.