Demartini Crossed Swords with non-Charvel neck

[sandmannn69]

I deleted the post/pictures because seller agreed to refund.

[Axewielder]

Eddie did not do you a solid. The plate should have scared you away. Also that bottom drilled nut looks a bit wonky.

[DonP]

Not even a quarter sawn neck. Send it back.

Amazing what crooks can do with decals.

[Johnnyryche]

Can you post some close up pics of the swords handles and kanji letters. You may have an old GMW that some added a Charvel logo to.

[sandmannn69]

Can you post some close up pics of the swords handles and kanji letters. You may have an old GMW that some added a Charvel logo to.

That's what I was thinking, too, although I thought GMW used chrome floyds like the original.

The seller has accepted the return

[Number Of The Priest]

Should have left the pictures posted so that anyone who might come across this guitar in the future has a visual reference. The seller might have agreed to refund you and play the honest role this time, but who knows, he may try to sell it again in the future without disclosing its inauthenticity, thus duping someone less informed.

You don't need to crucify him... just leave the pictures up so we can "watch out" for this neck/guitar in the future.

[sandmannn69]

ignore this post

[sandmannn69]

Should have left the pictures posted so that anyone who might come across this guitar in the future has a visual reference. The seller might have agreed to refund you and play the honest role this time, but who knows, he may try to sell it again in the future without disclosing its inauthenticity, thus duping someone less informed.

You don't need to crucify him... just leave the pictures up so we can "watch out" for this neck/guitar in the future.

After I get my refund I was going to repost the pictures and info.

[Johnnyryche]

That's what I was thinking, too, although I thought GMW used chrome floyds like the original.

GMW guitars are/were not production models so a customer could easily change any of the specs, including the hardware color. Lee would use whatever the customer asked for but he typically would follow the original specs. So on the crossed swords he would use a chrome Floyd and hardware as you noted.

Just wondering if you had a Charvel or GMW body and the seller swapped out the neck along with the neck plate and RTM pickup.

[sandmannn69]

Just wondering if you had a Charvel or GMW body and the seller swapped out the neck along with the neck plate and RTM pickup.

I was thinking the same thing, but the white part of the body was kind of a cream white, not a snow white like the real WDM guitar. And the Floyd had "Floyd Rose Original" stamped on top, my other guitars with REAL OFRs just say "Floyd Rose".

The seller was argumentative about a return until I mentioned the straight 12" radius on the neck, then it was OKay, we'll have UPS pick it up.

[sandmannn69]

I returned the guitar and refund is "pending", but it looks like the seller re-listed it on ebay with the same ad/pictures.

http://r.ebay.com/jHNnRf

Only thing changed is in the description was the fretboard radius, which they listed as

• 12" to 16" Compound Radius (304.8 mm to 406.4 mm)

but was actually 12" radius (which is why they removed it)

and they removed the line

• Appears to be a late 90s or early 2000ss

I thought Charvel CS didn't start making WDM Swords guitars until 2006.....

If you are looking for a (real) CS Demartini Swords guitar, DO NOT buy this. IMO, it is not even a Charvel guitar, leastways a CS guitar.

Neck heel is fender spec 2 3/16", not 2 1/4" Charvel spec (reason for gap in pocket).
Bridge has "Floyd Rose Original" stamped on top, all real OFRs I've owned just had "Floyd Rose" stamped, no "Original".
Pickup ring is slanted like a Gibson LP bridge/neck ring, all my Charvels have flat rings (flat top guitar, duh)
No signature on back of headstock, has tool retainer screw holes???
Blank neck plate, should be a Charvel neck plate.

The white part of the body is actually an off-white color, kind of cream. AFAIK, polyurethane-painted white guitars don't yellow with age.

I will re-post some pictures I took after the refund posts to my account.

[Leotis]

Dude...I bought the same guitar from them on Reverb back in September and they argued, and argued, and argued that it was a legit Charvel, even after I showed them the email from Chase at Charvel stating that it was NOT. I'll post the pics I took and sent to Chase. This is pretty crooked, if you ask me. I think they got burned on a trade-in and now they're trying to pass it off to someone they hope won't notice instead of taking the loss. At any rate, I know now that I can't trust them and I will never spend another dime there. Pretty shortsighted if you ask me...losing ALL of a customer's future business over one sale?

Oh...one other point I forgot to include in the pics- there is no serial # anywhere on the guitar.

[sandmannn69]

. I think they got burned on a trade-in and now they're trying to pass it off to someone they hope won't notice instead of taking the loss.

I was thinking the same thing. Too bad Charvel can't send them a cease-and-desist notice on this fake POS, I think they are a Charvel dealer....

Thanks for posting your info. I'd forgotten about the top-mount nut and the backplate recess. They probably think somebody's going to buy it and just hang it, without trying to play it.

[Leotis]

They are a Charvel dealer... they've got this thing listed on their website too. Someone mentioned getting close-ups of the sword graphics and I'd almost forgotten this pic. You can really see the difference a lot better here...the legit version is on the bottom.

[toejam]

Bridge has "Floyd Rose Original" stamped on top, all real OFRs I've owned just had "Floyd Rose" stamped, no "Original".

It's a real Floyd. Fender at one time bought the rights to Floyd and they had Original stamped on lots of them.