Tolkki speaks with Jesus

[the_drip]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

i think there is some truth to this. but i doubt his sanity is really in question. Seems more of a mid-life crisis thing to me.

[RacerX]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

Originally posted by Dreamland_Rebel:
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[Iced In Flames]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

I was recently banned from the strato forum. [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[horns666]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

The perfect way is only difficult for those who pick and choose. Do not like , do not dislike;
All will then be clear. Make a hairbreadth difference and heaven and Earth are set apart;
If you want the truth to stand clear before you,
never be for or against. The struggle between
"for" and "against" is the mind's worst disease.

Wisdom does not consist of trying to rest the good from the evil.

The way to the absolute and to the essence of life. The aim is not the one-sided promotion of spirit, soul and senses, but the opening of all human capacities - thought , feeling , and will.
So will the voiceless voice be heard and the self be brought into harmony with it.

The path to truth

1. Seeking After Truth
2. Awareness of Truth ( and its exitence)
3. Perception Of Truth (its substance)
4. Understanding Of Truth (To see the totality)
5. Experiencing Of Truth
6. Return To The Primal Source of Truth

To understand , one ought to throw away all ideals, patterns and beliefs. It is indeed difficult to see things simply - our minds are very complex. Penetrate the complex , and go to the heart of matter. Do not beat around the bush follow a straight line to the objective. Simplicity is the shortest distance between two points. 'simply simplify' - being one self - means having freedom and its primary sense , not limited by attachments , complex rules and regulations. When there is freedom from conditioning , there is simplicity.


There is a powerful craving in most of us to see ourselves as instruments in the hands of others and , free ourselves from responsibility for acts which are prompted by our own questionable inclinations and impulses. Both the strong and the weak grasp at the alibi. The latter hide their malevolence under the virtue of obedience.
The strong , too , claim absolution by proclaiming themselves the chosen instruments of a higher power - God , history , fate , nation or humanity.

Similarly , We have more faith in what we imitate than in what we originate. We can not derive a sense of absolute certainty from anything which has its roots in us. The most agonizing sense of insecurity comes from standing alone and we are not alone when we imitate. It is this way with most of us; we are what other people say we are. We know ourselves chiefly by hearsay.

To become different from what we are, we must have some awareness of what we are. Whether or not we have a real change of heart , it can not be realized without self-awareness. Yet, it is remarkable that the very people who are most
self-dissatisfied, who crave for a new identity,
have the least amount of self-awareness. They
have turned away from an unwanted self and, never
had a good look at it. The result is that most dissatisfied people cannot attain a real change
of heart. They are transparent and their unwanted
qualities persist through all attempts at self-
dramatization and self-transformation. It is the
lack of self-awareness which renders us transparent. The soul that knows itself is opaque.

Fear comes from uncertainty. When we are absolutely certain, whether of our worth or our worthlessness, we almost impervious to fear.
Thus, a feeling of utter unworthiness can be a source of courage. Everything seems possible
when we are absolutely helpless or absolutely
powerful - and states stimulate our gullibility.

Pride is a sense of worth derived from something
that is not organically part of us, while self
esteem is derived from potentialities and achievements of self. We are proud when we identify ourselves with an imaginary self,
be it a leader, a holy cause, a collective body
of possessions. There is fear and tolerance in
pride ; it is sensitive and uncompromising. The
less promise and potentiality in the self, is
more imperative is the need for pride. The core
of pride is self-rejection. It is true, however,
that when pride releases energies and serves as
a spur to achievement, it can lead to a reconciliation with the self and the attainment of genuine self-esteem.

Secretiveness can be a source of pride. It is a paradox that secretiveness plays the same role as boasting - both are engaged in the creation of a disguise. Boasting tries to create an imaginary self, while secretiveness gives us the exilerating feeling of being princes disguised in meekness. Of the two, secretiveness is the most
difficult and effective, for the self-observant
boasting breeds self-contempt. Yet, men govern
nothing with more difficulty than their tongues,
and they can moderate their desire more than their words. Humility, however, is not verbal renunciation of pride but the substitution of
pride for self-awareness and objectivity. Forced
humility is false pride.

A fateful process is set in motion when the individual is released to the freedom of his own impotence and left to justify his existence by
his own efforts. The individual on his own,
striving to realize himself and prove his worth,
has created all that is great in literature, art,
music, science and technology. This autonomous individual, also when he can neither realize himself nor justify his existence by his own efforts, is a breeding ground of frustration
and the seed of the convulsion that shakes our world to its foundations.

The autonomous individual is stable only so long as he is possessed of self-esteem. The maintainence of self-esteem is a continuos task
which taxes all of the individuals power and
inner resources. We have to prove our worth
and justify our existence anew each day. When,
for whatever reason, self-esteem is unattainable,
the autonomous individual becomes a highly explosive entity. He turns away from an unpromising self and plunges into the pursuit of
pride, the explosive substitute for self-esteem.
All social disturbances and upheavals have their roots in crises of individual self-esteem, and the
great endeaver in which the masses most readily unite is basically a search for pride.

So, we acquire a sense of worth either by realizing our talents, or by keeping busy or by
identifying ourselves with something apart from
us - be it a cause, a leader, a group, possessions or whatnot. The path of self-realization is by far the most difficult. It is
taken only when avenues are more or less blocked.
Men of talent have to be encouraged in creative
work. Their groans and laments echoe through the ages.

Action is a high road to self-confidence and
esteem. Where it is open, all energies flow
toward it. It comes readily to most and its rewards are tangible. The cultivation of the spirit is elusive and extremely difficult and
the tendency toward it is rarely spontaneous,
whereas, the opportunities for action are many.

The inclination to action is symptomatic of an inner imbalance. To be be balanced is to be more or less at rest. Action is at bottom - a swinging and flailing of the arms to keep oneself afloat.
And if it is true as Napolean wrote: "The art of
government is not to let men grow stale," then, it is an art unlancing. Therefore all leaders
religious and politically endowed obtain there power in their methods of unbalancing, meaning,
yhey must keep their paople active and striving.

We are told that talent creates its own opportunities. Yet, it sometimes seems that intense desire creates not only its own opportunities, but its own talents as well.

The times of drastic change are times of passions.
We can be fit and ready for that which is wholly new. We have to adjust ourselves and every radical adjustment is a crisis in self-esteem:
we undego a test ; we have to prove ourselves.
A population subjected to drastic change is,
thus, a population of misfits, and misfits live
and breath in an atmosphere of passion.

That we pursue something passionately does not always mean that we we really want it or that
we have special aptitude for it. Often, the thing
we pursue most passionately is but a substitute for the one thing we really want and cannot have.
It is usually safe to predict that the fulfillment
of an excessively cherished desire is not likely
to still our nagging anxiety. In every passionate pursuit, the pursuit counts more than the object pursued.

Our sense of power is more vivid when we break a man' spirit than when we win his heart, for we
can win a man's heart one day and lose it the
next. But when we break a proud spirit, we achieve
something that is final and absolute.

It is compassion rather than the principle of justice which can guard us against being unjust
to our fellow men.

It is doubtful whether there is such a thing as
impulsive or natural tolerance. Tolerance requires
an effort of thought and self-control. Acts of
kindness, too, are rarely without deliberation and thoughtfulness. Thus, it seems that some artificiality, some posing and pretense, is
inseperable from any act or attitude which involves a limitation of our appetites and selfishness. We ought to beware of people who do not think it is necessary to pretend that they are good and decent. Lack of hypocrisy in such things hints at a more depraved ruthlessness.
Pretenseis often an indispensible step in the
attainment of genuineness. It is a form into which genuine inclinations flow and solidify.

The control of our being is not unlike the combination of a safe. One turn of the rarely unlocks the safe ; each advance and retreat is
step toward one's final achievement.

We can see through others only when we can see through ourselves and unfortunately most if not
all of us fear and tremble at what we sometimes
see within ourselves, as real human beings,
because, a leader, a group which may have readily
united in a holy cause, which dictates to us
ethics, morals, values, a belief system or
whatsoever, has made us feel guilt for who and
what we are, by our very natures. Learning is not a matter of seeking knowledge or living
according to the standards of an accumulated
system of knowing. But, rather, the basis is
self-knowledge, for all knowledge ultimately
means self-knowing ; for there is no experience but the experiencer. The method is in discovering the cause of one's own ignorance, and living one's life as a human being.

Those who cling to a certian way, or religion,
or conditioning are in bondage.

Do you not see, are you not aware, our greatest
scientists have discovered that most of what surrounds us in the univers is made up mostly of dark matter, these most learned of men cannot even seem to find an answer as to where our univers begins or ends. Moreover spiritual
leaders, the most learned theologians in all of
their self-proclaimed visitations, inspiritations
and revelations, still have no answers. But,
if man having been created by 'God' who as he is
thought to be 'omniscient'( all Knowing ), then
why if 'God' reaveals himself to his chosen leaders, why then do they not know? Therefore,
we are most readily accessible to only two major truths that can be known, The first is self-
knowledge, the second comes from the fact that
there are limits to knowing.

Life is continual change, so any truth can only
be relative under certain conditions, situations,
and circumstances. What may be true in one period
in time or history may not be true in another place or time, therfore, we grasp this one essential factor in living life as a human being.
Which, simply stated is truth cannot be fixed in
any one book, one science, one belief system, for
truth implies
boundless expansion. For if our essence, or our
soul is infinite, and the universe is infinite,
than the truth must also be infinite.
So, why the duality, Followers of the right hand path have bickered quereled for an entire age of earth. Their priest and ministers have respectively attempted to find truth in their own lies. The ice age of religious thought can last but a limited time in this great scheme of human existence. The gods of wisdom defiled have had
their saga, and their millenium of a divine path
to paradise, they've accused each other of heresies and spiritual indiscretions. Alas, too
long have they studied righteousness, in their desperation to over come their fear of their own
uncertainty and the unknown, their twilight of
of their gloom and doom of death, dying and last
rites is done. A glow of a new light is borne
the morning of undefiled wisdom. However this is not an attempt by any means to blaspheme, but
rather a statement of 'indignation' - The Devil,
has been attacked by men of God relentlessly and without reservation. Never has there ever been an opportunity, short of fiction, for the Dark Prince
to speak out in the same manner as the spokesman of the Lord of the righteous. The pulpit pounders
of the past have been free to define 'good' and 'evil' as they see fit, and have gladly smashed into oblivion any who disagree with their
lies - both verbally and, at times , physically. Their talk of charity, when applied to his Infernal Majesty, becomes an empty sham - If their
faith is strong and this God in which they have followed for centuries is so all powerful, then,
what are they afraid of? How sad it is that they fear what they don't understand? But, you must know that once there is understanding, then
there can be no-more-fear!!!

Philosophically, Mentally, Whole-Heartedly, and Truthfully yours ...

Bill Z Bub

[horns666]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

Well I just posted my thoughts of our very existence in the Stratovarius board .... [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Let's see if Timo contacts me and wants to bond. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[monk]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

Originally posted by horns666:
Well I just posted my thoughts of our very existence in the Stratovarius board .... [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

Let's see if Timo contacts me and wants to bond. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Where? Thread name? Your user nick? [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]

[Mordor]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

Link is mandatory!!!

[Mordor]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

Bill you've signed the guestbook not the board!Btw,a guy called hanna called you "manic depressive weirdo" [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] !

Check out also my sign on page 3 or 4 [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[Boxcar Willie 84]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

Mordor is your pic from the same Berserker as the anime?? If so that song at the beginning of each show is the best song ever!! Tell Me Why by Penpals!! I think that is the heaviest, darkest, most evil song I've ever heard!!

[Mordor]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

It's from Berserk yeah,the opening theme is cool (not so evil imo [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img] )but I prefer the ending theme!

[horns666]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

The link is the one that is posted on this thread ..

I signed and posted on the message board under my name Bill Z Bub

so Timo disguised himself as someone else and called me a "manic Depressive weirdo"

Cool... [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]

I must go see... [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[horns666]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

Cool ....Modor I could'nt find your post I'll look again..

Here's my response to Hanna , the one that called me a "manic depressive weirdo"..

ha hhaaaa haaa.. Hanna!!

Thanks , this must mean you love Christ , that's nice ....tell him I said "Whazzzzaaaap" when you see him. [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

Hail Satan

Bill Z Bub

[Mordor]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

My post is at the end of this page:
http://www.stratovarius.com/index2.p...estbook&page=3

Still waiting for a reply by Timo [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]

[petedz]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

I never thought the band was more than average--they seem to be stuck in one gear. I liked a couple of songs and have a handful of the CDs.

[img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] The people on that guestbook/forum are being kinda harsh! The guy obviously has problems, and his so called fans get him on the ground and have started kicking him into a bloody pulp? [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img]

I simply don't see the point in ripping on somebody who has mental issues.

[sevser]

Re: Tolkki speaks with Jesus

I agree. Especially from fans...Lets say the guy IS Bipolar, (Tis the season) then that could realy send one over the edge.