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    Default Estimated value of a GMW Strat head

    Hi guys,
    I have a GMW Strat head, and consider selling it. What would you estimate as a fair sales price for this guitar?
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    1200 - 1500 I'd say.
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    Legit question: If it has the decal on it like that, is it not considered a forgery if you sell it as is?

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    ....sorry guys, excuse me..what does GMW stand for??

    A copy or fake??

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    GMW is Garver, Moser and Wilkins - I forget why it was named that exactly, but Lee Garver is the owner.

    It would only be considered a forgery if the seller tried to pass it off as something it is not. And there's usually a few ways to tell if it's a fake charvel..
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilli View Post
    GMW is Garver, Moser and Wilkins - I forget why it was named that exactly, but Lee Garver is the owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kamanda View Post
    Legit question: If it has the decal on it like that, is it not considered a forgery if you sell it as is?
    Well, I would not try to pass it as a Charvel.
    As far as I know, this was built for Tom McDyne in Jonh Oliva’s Pain, who was a Charvel endorsee at the time, hence the decal

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    Quote Originally Posted by neilli View Post
    GMW is Garver, Moser and Wilkins - I forget why it was named that exactly, but Lee Garver is the owner.
    I thought the W was for Dan "Wizard" Lawrence who did the artwork.
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    it was Wilkins, but he left at some point. When Dan started doing the paint that "wizard" title worked. & Neal Moser. IIRC Lee was a BCRich employee at one time. He was offered a bunch of BCRich 2nds by Bernie (depending on who's version of the story the # varies, but it was a triple digit #). All blanks that for some reason were tossed in a storage due to build issues. Neal was BCRs shop foreman, setup man and responsible for a lot of what BCR was, so Lee & Neal partnered to bring those blanks back to life.

    Quote Originally Posted by toejam View Post
    I thought the W was for Dan "Wizard" Lawrence who did the artwork.

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    Ah, I see. Cool.
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    I'd say $1000 for non GMW logo'd. Add $300+ for the logo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xenophobe View Post
    I'd say $1000 for non GMW logo'd. Add $300+ for the logo.
    This one's got a Charvel logo.
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    There are a couple of problems with GMW values. And I'm only speaking about the old "rock replicas" that were done prior to the cease and desist, not the current stuff.

    - They were copies of early Charvels, largely stratheads. Granted, this was a niche that was unfulfilled at the time, given J/C was precluded from making them. (Pre- Fender ownership, I mean.) And they were every bit as good. But a copy of something is never going to have as much value as the original. And now they're back in production by Charvel, which makes it that much harder on GMW values.

    - They weren't serialized, and most weren't logo'd as GMWs. (Many buyers wanted to complete the Charvel look with aftermarket logos.) So there can be questions about authenticity. If you're "In the know", there are things you can look for. But fakes and parts guitars have come up from time to time.

    It's too bad, the guitars themselves are top notch. But the values are basically held down by market factors, and that's pretty much always going to be the case now.

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    Agree 100% plus since they were built to order if someone wants a guitar w the exact options as the guitars u have then its worth more to them.

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    Thanks for the replies guys. Kind of where I pictures it would be.
    Great guitar, so we will see if it stays or if it goes

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    Quote Originally Posted by toejam View Post
    This one's got a Charvel logo.
    I know. GMW logo'd stratheads are fairly rare, GMW Charvel clones really aren't.
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    I always thought it was odd people didn't want the GMW logo - it's a decent logo, works on a strathead and unless you're trying to fake something, I don't see the 'need' for the Charvel logo even on a rock replica..
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    Quote Originally Posted by neilli View Post
    I always thought it was odd people didn't want the GMW logo - it's a decent logo, works on a strathead and unless you're trying to fake something, I don't see the 'need' for the Charvel logo even on a rock replica..
    Yeah, I didn't get it either. I'd much rather have a GMW logo'd strathead. I think it looks great.
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    It was less about people not wanting the GMW logo, and more about them wanting what was unattainable at the time - a custom Charvel strathead, or at least a replica of one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2379 View Post
    it was Wilkins, but he left at some point. When Dan started doing the paint that "wizard" title worked. & Neal Moser. IIRC Lee was a BCRich employee at one time. He was offered a bunch of BCRich 2nds by Bernie (depending on who's version of the story the # varies, but it was a triple digit #). All blanks that for some reason were tossed in a storage due to build issues. Neal was BCRs shop foreman, setup man and responsible for a lot of what BCR was, so Lee & Neal partnered to bring those blanks back to life.
    Back in the early 90's Lee also had some Jackson cores, I remember seeing some soloist, and even some Schon cores.
    Wilkins did the paint and clear, early on, and at some point Lee and Pat parted ways. Dan did the graphics, and had his booth in the shop. Not sure where they did the clearcoats. Warmoth did the necks and some bodies from the late 80's to mid 90's. There were some subcontractors that did some stuff for them I did the Namm shows with them from 89-95. Fun times

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