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    home recording of course...I am open to a PC or a Mac...I am looking to get something with the new Core Duo but what is a good sound card for home use...What is the shit right now. I'm so out of touch. I don't need a full on studio sound card but something with external in/outs. I have a Game Theater xp right now and that the sort of card I'm thinking of.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6M4lm9Ahz0

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    Sweetwater's got some cool computers.
    http://www.sweetwater.com/shop/compu...dio/computers/
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    • #3
      I bought a new recording computer about half a year ago. Well i always used PC so a Mac was out of the question. Also i think with a properly configurated PC you don't have to worry about the talk that Mac's are superior.

      I have a AMD Dual Core Cpu with 3,8ghz. At the time i bought this system, even the 4,2 ghz dual core cpu was quite more so i went with the 3,8. Right now i would probably go with a higher ghz cpu.
      My system has 2 gig of ram (very important to have quality memory and lot's of it) and 2 separate harddisks. One small 40gig for the system and cubase and another larger (250 gig SATA 2) for the audio files.
      I bought the single components and builded the computer myself. Recommended if you want to save (especially as normally companies charge big time for so-called "audio computers"), not recommended if you have no experience building computers and how to setup your system correctly for audio (which is sometimes quite special)

      I guess i can't really help you with the soundcard. I run a RME HDSP 9652 card (which IMO is one of the best choices, extremely stable and support is great) but i guess that's not what you are looking for.
      Right now i have hooked up a 16 channel converter via ADAT so i have 16 in's/out's but i plan on buying another 8 channels in the future. Luckily the card can have up to 24 channels via ADAT simultaniously.
      The card itself doesn't have any analog in's/out's so you need to buy external converters for it. The card itself is $600 so with a nice converter you head up to $1k. It's expensive but you get what you pay. I plugged it in and it runs up until now without a single problem (knocking on wood )

      For a more budget soundcard look into M-Audio products. A friend of mine has a Audiophile 2496 which works great and is cheap. Good choice if you plan on staying at 2 channels. If it should be more than maybe the Delta 1010 is an option. However i can't say from experience as i don't own one nor know anybody who does. Just what i read here and there so maybe someone can chime in about those cards.

      Hope this helps a bit.

      Flo
      http://www.myspace.com/drasticviolence

      Thrash/Death-Metal from Germany

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      • #4
        I use a SoundBlaster Live5.1 card and it gets the sound in and out just fine.

        Everything going into the card is passed through a ROLLS Stereo Line Mixer (ADA MP1, rack stuff, Drum Machines, etc) to bump it down to the Stereo 2-channel thing for the sound card.

        I use Adobe Audition 1.5 (used to be my favorite program, Cool Edit).

        The computer itself is one I built with an ASUS mobo and Intel P4 2.8GHz with 2GB of RAM.
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        • #5
          dude dont worry about whats cool now-my pc audio is a P3 800 with 512 memory running 1st edition digi001 hardware and protools software on windows 98 fucking 2nd addition..lol..so i have had that machine since 99 and have felt no need to change as thats all its used for.I stream lined the system and bought a high end model that at its time was the dogs bollox.All it does it play and record audio-there is no other junk added to the operating system.
          now the only reason i might consider upgrading in the future would be the idea of using protools hardware on a laptop via the 1334 fire wire-you might consider going the laptop route with decent hardware as it would be easier to record bands out of the house and on the road

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          • #6
            Thanx guys...I plan on getting something new so I want something that will really kick ass. I sure like the Mac I tried.
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6M4lm9Ahz0

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            • #7
              I have an Apple powerbook g4 17" and also one of the new Mac Pro quad core desktops tha tjust came out. I switched from PC to apple in august 2004 and have absolutely no regrets. I still use my PC for a few things but not much. I really, really, really, recommend apples! The iMacs are great too (I use one at work). You really can't go wrong. Garagebang is a great app Apple has that you can record music with too.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jjw
                dude dont worry about whats cool now-my pc audio is a P3 800 with 512 memory running 1st edition digi001 hardware and protools software on windows 98 fucking 2nd addition..lol..so i have had that machine since 99 and have felt no need to change as thats all its used for.I stream lined the system and bought a high end model that at its time was the dogs bollox.All it does it play and record audio-there is no other junk added to the operating system.
                now the only reason i might consider upgrading in the future would be the idea of using protools hardware on a laptop via the 1334 fire wire-you might consider going the laptop route with decent hardware as it would be easier to record bands out of the house and on the road
                That's pretty close to my recording machine. 900 MHz, 512 Ram and a 20 gig drive. I think we had 12 tracks multi-tracked at one time and it didn't skip a beat. (excuse the pun)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by gort
                  Garagebang is a great app
                  Dude, he wanted to hear about software, not your porn collection! :ROTF:
                  "Quiet, numbskulls, I'm broadcasting!" -Moe Howard, "Micro-Phonies" (1945)

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                  • #10
                    Hhahaa. I meant garageband.

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                    • #11


                      So do you think this would do?
                      http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/pro...gon=&langid=EN
                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6M4lm9Ahz0

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                      • #12
                        I am no Mac expert but you really should expand the ram on this mac. 512 MB is just not really much. Better 1 gig or even more. Remember ram can only be substituted with more ram

                        Oh and don't listen to those guys recommend old machines. Really, if you want to use some uptodate plugins or good drum sample libraries you need processing power. And you get to 20 tracks or more simutaniously faster than you thing. Now strap nice quality eq's and comps across every track, use some reverb and 2track compression (especially on the drum sub group) and you won't have any fun without a fast cpu. Like i said i can't really recommend anything mac related as i just don't have much of a clue but if you go PC then don't go under 3ghz, better buy a dual core cpu.

                        Flo
                        http://www.myspace.com/drasticviolence

                        Thrash/Death-Metal from Germany

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                        • #13
                          of course these days its DIRT cheap to buy machines that are powerfull!so he will,but to anyone considering upgrading a stable machine like onlinestagegear above-you dont have too!
                          just becuase you use samples and plugins like there being handed out for free doesnt mean others do-so no need for big CPU
                          I use quality plugins and no samplers-i can chain LOTS together and my master fader has some big boys in there working including a complex reverb from time to time
                          one thing i forgot to recomend is a seperate audio hard disk that is fast and noiselesss-also keep this a MUSIC RECORDING AND PLAYBACK SYSTEM.dont put any other windows shit on it-no internet-no screensavers-nOTHING but audio

                          i think a lot of guys like dual core systems and lots of ram because they play online games a lot and download porn
                          Last edited by jjw; 09-22-2006, 01:18 AM.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by sevser
                            yeahh that would be cool dude partner that up with Digidesign hardware and recording software and you will easily record pro sounding tunes

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                            • #15
                              FIY my dual core PC is in my studio room and besides the audio software there isn't installed anything. No internet, no games, no firewall.
                              Actually i don't use plugins like they are handed out for free. Not getting why you think i do. I use some plugins i found work well and use several instances of them. After all that's the beauty of software vs hardware. But every instance need processing power.

                              Well i have Windows XP and Cubase SX running and really on 900MHz that's not an option.
                              Just think about it, plugins right now just use much cpu power. Look at Waves SSL, URS EQ's and Comps and anything new (not counting all those dsp card based plugins like TC Powercore or UAD). If you now buy a old machine you won't have the option to run those in the future if you decide to buy them.

                              Yes having a separate harddisk is important.
                              Well and you really have to think about going Digidesign. Their price police sucks (just because they are the industry leaders doesn't justify this). And with Protools the real fun only starts with the TDM systems which are nearly unpayable.
                              But if Protools LE is what you can work best with it's a good choice. Just don't buy into the "protools is the industry standard so i need it also". You can't compare LE to a fullblown "real" Protools TDM system.

                              Flo
                              http://www.myspace.com/drasticviolence

                              Thrash/Death-Metal from Germany

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