Question on Warmoth Jackson headstock shape

[Matt_B]

Matt_B, I see you're in Champaign. I grew up in Tuscola, just 20 miles south of there and lived in Champaign/Urbana for about 8 years after high school. Small world.

The world seems to get smaller every day. We go to the outlet mall in Tuscola.

If you're willing to go with the Strat headstock that would open you up to a whole lot more possibilities from different neck manufacturers.

Agreed. If I go with a Strat headstock, I can pretty much get what I want in a neck profile and neck finish (oiled like Charvels and Jacksons). I have been considering a fully scalloped neck which would work with a Strat headstock because I could go with a maple headstock (as opposed to a matching headstock). If I decide later on that a scalloped neck isn't for me, I can easily just get another neck to swap out without being concerned about getting the headstock repainted and the colors matching.

But in the end, I say hold out for what you really want. You'll be more satisfied in the long run and won't feel like you settled.

I hear ya. I'm in no hurry. It's unlikely I find exactly what I want used finish-wise. I could get everything exactly the way I want it from Jackson but I'm not at the point where I can stomach the price or wait for a real Jackson. However, ignoring price, if I just designed what I wanted and ordered it, I wouldn't be spending 3-6 months trying to find what I want. That makes the wait for a Jackson not so bad. I had considered getting a quote but I didn't want to waste a dealer's time.

[1trussell]

Matt_B, I see you're in Champaign. I grew up in Tuscola, just 20 miles south of there and lived in Champaign/Urbana for about 8 years after high school. Small world.

If you're willing to go with the Strat headstock that would open you up to a whole lot more possibilities from different neck manufacturers.

But in the end, I say hold out for what you really want. You'll be more satisfied in the long run and won't feel like you settled.

[Matt_B]

Check e-bay. There were a few Jackson necks on there today. At least one was a USA.

Believe me, I check the 'bay multiple times a day but I'm not finding what I would like which is a neck with:
- 22 jumbo (Dunlop 6100) frets
- maple fretboard
- reverse headstock
- 16" radius or 12"-16" compound radius
- cut for a top mount Floyd nut

I'm also looking at whole guitars too but no luck there either. I'm looking for:
- Strat or Dinky body
- Recessed OFR
- 1 vol or 1 vol+tone (I would rewire to be 2 volumes)
- 3 way toggle
- 2 hums or 1 hum+1 sc.

[rjohnstone]

Rick, you are going to have to help me out. I don't see anywhere on the Warmoth site that they offer a 2-1/4" wide heel. Where is it?

I typically do Strat heads and Tele necks but I do offer a 2-1/4" wide heel. I do some custom work on head shapes. Currently I'm doing this one for a customer.

You have to specify it in the order form in the "Additional Information/Instructions" section.
I had a question about the heel last year, so I called the sales number and they told me to specify it there. They would get back to me on the additional charge once the order was submitted.
I was told this could not be ordered on Strat or Tele necks as those are sold under license as replacement parts only.

Sully, one of the necks that I thought was a Warmoth is actually a Mighty Mite. It's on a friend of mines guitar. I called and asked him where he got it.
He couldn't remember, so he pulled it and sure enough it had the Mighty Mite logo on the heel.

[slash]

They only make the 22 fret version.
The 24 fret version is still only a 22 fretter with a 2 fret extension piece added to the board.
But you CAN order it with a 2 1/4" (Jackson) heel size.

Rick, you are going to have to help me out. I don't see anywhere on the Warmoth site that they offer a 2-1/4" wide heel. Where is it?

I typically do Strat heads and Tele necks but I do offer a 2-1/4" wide heel. I do some custom work on head shapes. Currently I'm doing this one for a customer.

[DocNrock]

That is one of the pics I was basing my comments on Sully. It doesn't look the same and when I overlaid their headstock over a pic of mine, it doesn't line it. It's not even close.

Hmmm...as much as I like pointies, I may end up going with a Strat headstock instead unless I luck out and find the Jackson or Charvel that already has all the specs I want and just needs a new paint job.

Check e-bay. There were a few Jackson necks on there today. At least one was a USA.

[sully]

i've got a few of their jackson style necks; they're not accurate copies at all. that said, i don't know that the intent was to be indentical.

Sully, that pic does look different than the two I saw.
The two I saw in person were the same shape and size as my PS-2 neck.

[Matt_B]

warmoth "jackson" headstocks are NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT the same as a jackson headstock. they are not the same dimensions. good quality, but NOT the same headstock dimensions.
here's an example:

http://warmoth.com/showcase/sc_guita...54&type=guitar

totally not the same.

sully

That is one of the pics I was basing my comments on Sully. It doesn't look the same and when I overlaid their headstock over a pic of mine, it doesn't line it. It's not even close.

Hmmm...as much as I like pointies, I may end up going with a Strat headstock instead unless I luck out and find the Jackson or Charvel that already has all the specs I want and just needs a new paint job.

[rjohnstone]

Sully, that pic does look different than the two I saw.
The two I saw in person were the same shape and size as my PS-2 neck.

[sully]

warmoth "jackson" headstocks are NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT the same as a jackson headstock. they are not the same dimensions. good quality, but NOT the same headstock dimensions.
here's an example:

http://warmoth.com/showcase/sc_guita...54&type=guitar

totally not the same.

sully

[Matt_B]

Well, that's good to know that the headstock is correct. I'm working out a parts builds and the Warmoth Jackson neck is one of the possibilities. I would like a backup for my Charvel Bengal but:

1) I don't want to pay for what a new Jackson would cost.
2) I don't want to wait 12-24 months to get the guitar.
3) I really prefer new vs. used unless the used guitar is minty mint.

I've looked into Musikraft (great stuff but no pointy headstock which I would prefer) and Mojo (great stuff but again, not pointies and the delivery time as stated on the website is a little too long for me at this time). All that being said, I've got a lot of little details to work out so I'm just making sure I check out all my options.

[stevieb91]

Warmoth had my DK2 neck for a month, and that was their pattern for the Jackson 24 fret necks.

[DocNrock]

They only make the 22 fret version.
The 24 fret version is still only a 22 fretter with a 2 fret extension piece added to the board.
But you CAN order it with a 2 1/4" (Jackson) heel size.

Agreed about the 24 fret version, only useful for a V or V2 (RR) IMHO. I did not know that a 2 1/4" heel size could be ordered. Presumably one would have to drill the holes himself, as all of their machining is set up for Fender specs.

To Flatpicker, apparently not, unless this is something that has to be ordered as a custom shop item.

[Flatpicker]

Warmoth made a big deal about getting true 24 fret necks a couple of years ago.
They even asked people to send in a neck for them to pattern off of.
Nothing ever came of it?

[rjohnstone]

They only make the 22 fret version.
The 24 fret version is still only a 22 fretter with a 2 fret extension piece added to the board.
But you CAN order it with a 2 1/4" (Jackson) heel size.