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  • JJ119
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    Coming along nicely!!

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  • castle
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    Neck is done - I ended up going with Butala. He just sent me the following pics ahead of shipping it to me:





    I got this pic from Lee a couple weeks ago. This is before the topcoat final finishing.

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  • Bert
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    Yeah especially all this guitar has gone through... started out life as a 3-TITE with vintage trem from what I can tell. Then someone modified it for a H-S-S + Kahler. Then in '97, as you can see in the "before" pics there, someone sent it to Jackson to convert it to a Floyd and they also replaced the pointy neck with the horrible hockey puck headstock neck. I got it in that state... I put the strat-style neck on it and had Lee to a proper non-recessed Floyd conversion along with the refin. Now it's amazing looking AND sounding -- my main gigging guitar.
    Last edited by Bert; 05-30-2020, 01:00 PM.

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  • JJ119
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    Bert

    That is a beauty!

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  • Bert
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    Originally posted by castle View Post
    Decided against painting this myself. I shipped it off today to Lee Garver at GMW guitarworks for a repaint.

    Now trying to decide between Butala Custom Shop Guitars and Musikraft for the neck replacement. I'm pretty sure I have all the specs now. I'll post them all here shortly too for posterity.

    I'm going to do this right
    Good move! I had Lee finish an old USA Charvel and it's now gorgeous: https://photos.app.goo.gl/XDURHNdlMXPsjbxw2

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  • castle
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    Originally posted by Number Of The Priest View Post
    Why not choose a double-action truss rod?
    I think ultimately I will - this is something I asked the neck builders too.
    thanks for following!

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  • Number Of The Priest
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    I'm still following this thread with great interest. I have no doubt you have your heart set on doing this guitar justice.

    Caveat: I am not a scholar on the Holdsworth guitars.

    I noticed you selected a single-action truss rod. This seems so antiquated, and "limiting" if you ever need to add neck relief, even if it was "correct" for a Holdsworth. Is there a particular reason you're not going with a double-action truss rod? You're getting the heel adjustment spoke-wheel which didn't exist on the Holdsworth (at least from what I can determine by looking at example Holdsworth pictures in Google Images), so something tells me you're open to deviating from the norm, so why not choose a double-action truss rod?

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  • castle
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    For posterity, here are the specs I've gathered for the Holdsworth neck:

    2 piece construction
    With "skunk stripe"
    Right Handed
    25.5" scale
    22 frets
    1 11/16" nut width
    1/8" nut slot
    2 1/4" at the heel rounded
    Single acting truss rod w heel adjustment
    Rock maple neck
    0.10" Ebony fingerboard
    12" - 16" compound radius
    Heavy rolled fingerboard edges
    10mm tuner holes
    1/4" white dots - plastic
    2mm white side markers
    12th dot spacing narrow
    6100 Jumbo frets
    Back Profile - 83 92 that is a full rounded D at 12th fret, transitioning to a C at the first

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  • castle
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    Decided against painting this myself. I shipped it off today to Lee Garver at GMW guitarworks for a repaint.

    Now trying to decide between Butala Custom Shop Guitars and Musikraft for the neck replacement. I'm pretty sure I have all the specs now. I'll post them all here shortly too for posterity.

    I'm going to do this right
    Last edited by castle; 05-26-2020, 12:01 PM.

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  • CaptNasty
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    Originally posted by castle View Post

    I hear you, I'm the same way with car projects. I spend lots of $ bringing in correct parts from Germany for my Audis and Porsche. I'm just trying to be responsible as well. for example, the "skunk stripe" has zero impact on playability but costs and extra $50. I'm still likely to do that part, just unsure on the extra $300 for a slight variation in neck profile on a part of the neck.
    The neck was a major thing with how that guitar was built. Fretboard thickness, neck shape, fret size, nut width, heel width, fretboard radius, neck thickness were all part of the mojo of the guitar. I personally would be looking to restore that mojo. To end up with a Holdsworth that played like a standard Strat or Charvel would be anti-climatic I think. Make no mistake, the Holdsworth is a very different guitar feel wise.
    Last edited by CaptNasty; 05-22-2020, 08:55 PM.

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  • castle
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    Originally posted by CaptNasty View Post
    If I were restoring my own personal guitar, it would not be a financial thing. I would want it restored as close to stock as possible.
    I hear you, I'm the same way with car projects. I spend lots of $ bringing in correct parts from Germany for my Audis and Porsche. I'm just trying to be responsible as well. for example, the "skunk stripe" has zero impact on playability but costs and extra $50. I'm still likely to do that part, just unsure on the extra $300 for a slight variation in neck profile on a part of the neck.

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  • CaptNasty
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    If I were restoring my own personal guitar, it would not be a financial thing. I would want it restored as close to stock as possible.

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  • castle
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    Hi all,

    I was able to get all the specs on the neck and can have one built which leads me to this: What would you all think this rebuilt project ends up worth? I don't want to spend $700 on a custom neck if the whole guitar ends up worth $500 at the end of the day.

    The very custom part of this neck is that its profile should start as a D and end up a C - which is a custom programmed $300 extra charge.

    what do you guys think?

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  • CaptNasty
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    I think the most interesting thing in this article:

    https://bylwrks.tumblr.com/post/6623...oldsworths-red

    Is the part about the fretboard thickiness: 1/8” ebony. That coupled with the radius and neck shape if he can give any specifics should get you really close.

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  • castle
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    Originally posted by Bert View Post
    So cool. It's threads like this that keep me checking back in to the JCF every once in a while after all these years.....
    Thanks! I just made contact with Henry Boyle who helped design the necks with Holdsworth. I've asked a bunch of questions so I can get the right specs to Musikraft. I'm close. just trying to get the exact neck profile right.

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