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  • #16
    Jackson is not sponsoring him. He burned his bridge with Carvin too as his original V from them was supposed to be returned I read somewhere. Sadly I do not remember what happened to that guitar though. Vinnie was a true talent and perfectionist but so much so that it ruined his own band. I really dug the tunes but am glad that Mark, Dana, and the rest of the guys came out with their own killer tunes!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by katorocks View Post
      J Vinnie was a true talent and perfectionist but so much so that it ruined his own band.
      If you've ever read the article by Bobby Rock about what he went through recording drums for the first VVI album (I think it was the first- its been a long time since I read that article), it's pretty obvious that Vinnie had/has some issues.
      I agree that he was a talented guitarist and songwriter, but unfortunately it seems he is his own worst enemy.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by freedom's door View Post
        If you've ever read the article by Bobby Rock about what he went through recording drums for the first VVI album (I think it was the first- its been a long time since I read that article), it's pretty obvious that Vinnie had/has some issues.
        I wouldn't read too much into that. They weren't a band, they just met - therefore they didn't know each other's cues and hadn't pre-rehearsed songs. And considering that it was 1980-something; multiple takes was normal. Plus it wasn't like today with computer recording where you can just loop stuff or sync stuff. If it wasn't exactly what you wanted, you did it all again.

        Besides, there is a difference between fine linens and disposable napkins. No one cares that some run of the mill top 40 hit had a bad note in it.
        But artful masterpieces need to be perfect.


        Originally posted by freedom's door View Post
        I agree that he was a talented guitarist and songwriter, but unfortunately it seems he is his own worst enemy.
        Which is why we should always have an A&R guy, or producer, or some record exec that keeps us on track. Otherwise we run into Chinese Democracy - a mediocre album that took a decade to make. And by the time it came out, no one cared.

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        • #19
          Not that I am a top notch bass player for this to ever happen - but if VV, even 30 years past our prime, wanted me to record his new album or go on tour with him... I'M THERE

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          • #20
            It has been a few years, but IIRC, there was a
            V style guitar that Vinnie was absolutely attached to,
            and when Shit Hit The Fan, he was told by someone in his Circle Of Trust, that the V was being taken by a Creditor. He was completely and utterly destroyed by that. IF he was able to hide or keep it, I had never heard.
            If it was his Original Double V, I don't remember.

            It would be pretty cool to hear him with a band again.

            So many opinions of whether or not he SAVED KISS.

            IDK, but he Definitely helped KISS stay above water,
            IMHO.

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            • #21
              Is that the "hide the gear in the arena bathroom" story?

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              • #22
                pianoguyy

                I really don't know.
                Never heard it like that, so, I suppose it could be a
                possibility??

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                • #23
                  Short version (as I am sure I will forget a detail or two):

                  Before a VVI show, guys came to collect. And while they were being escorted around the place, someone ran directly to the crew, who then proceeded to hide the gear. Otherwise there would have been no show that night.

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                  • #24
                    WoW!!

                    If THAT'S not a
                    What The Fkcu moment!!

                    No idea he had burned through so much money!
                    I guess he didn't make too much more than a
                    couple Mill with Paul & Gene.

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