Kahler question

[metalchurch79]

Hey guys, I have a Kahler flyer that I just finished refurbishing for my left handed Rhoads project. Anyway the original springs were stretched and pretty much thrashed to hell.
I bought used springs from a guy on ebay. They were off of a Kahler Flyer as well, but they are much thicker than the ones that were on it. And they are much stiffer, even though they are in better overall condition, I can tell that they will offer more resistance.
I'm wondering if they are going to be too stiff, cause i'm planning on stringing my Rhoads with D'Addario 8-38's tuned 1/2 step down to Eb.

Were there 2 different spring sizes available for the Flyers and Pro's?
My Flyer was from an Aria ProII ZZ Bladerunner, and the springs I got were off of a BC Rich Mockingbird, I doubt there is a difference as to what they came off of is there?
They might have been an "upgrade" by a former owner of the BCRich?

Any thoughts on this?
Which size springs would you guys recommend I use for the 8's in Eb?
Thank you,
Joe

[Rich#6]

I used to use 8's on my model 6 and it has the big springs on it. You should be fine. I believe there is a way to adjust the tension. It was in one of the stickys in the tech section I think.

[metalchurch79]

Ok, that makes sense to me. I was thinking that, but I'm only in the mock up stage of my build, so I didnt actually have it strung up yet. If you are running a similar setup then I should be ok as well
I will do a search and check it out though.
Thanks Rich#6

[dg]

Kahler springs come in regular or heavy tension. Both work with any of their cam systems, but they just give a different feel. Sounds like the used ones you got were the heavy ones. If you prefer the regular tension springs, you can get them here:

http://www.kahlerparts.com/Part_Pages/8412.htm

[DonP]

I'm wondering if they are going to be too stiff, cause i'm planning on stringing my Rhoads with D'Addario 8-38's tuned 1/2 step down to Eb.

I'd say yes because of what you are using. I have light springs on a Pro and bought heavy springs just to check out the difference. The guitar is still waiting for a paint job so I can't comment on the difference in feel yet.

[metalchurch79]

Thanks guys!
I did a search on the Kahler/spring topic and I saw that someone posted about using Kahler Bass springs for a stiffer feel. But that's the opposite of what I'm looking for.
I wonder if the heavier springs offered are in fact bass springs?
I guess I'll just have to string it up and see, then I'll check that link DG.
Just hopin that someone had a similar experience that I could draw from before I got started.
I usually like to have all of my parts ready before I start building, but sometimes it doesn't work as planned.
As simple as guitars are, there's always that one thing that lets ya hangin'!

Thanks again, much appreciated!

[metalchurch79]

I saw that one guys 'blocked' his Kahler by inserting a deep well 7/16" socket under it. That would solve my problem so to speak, but I'm not really looking to go that direction.

[toejam]

i'm planning on stringing my Rhoads with D'Addario 8-38's tuned 1/2 step down to Eb.

I always thought 9s were like spiderwebs for standard tuning. I can't imagine using 8s and tuning down a half-step! You need to hit the gym or something. :ROTF:

[jtr]

+1 Toe

[metalchurch79]

Nah!! I have 2 guitars like that,(my JEL, and the DK2) and I have my KV's strung w/ 9-42's in Eb, which I guess are light also.
I have 12-58's on another KV in C#, but they are overkill, and I hardly play it anymore.

I play so much faster on light guages and I like a squishy feel on my guitars.

[metalchurch79]

Here's the Rhoads by the way:


This was before I refurbed the Kahler, and the neck is only for mock up.
Still quite a bit more work needs to be done yet.

[straycat]

I always used the heavy kits in my Kahlers with 9's.Nice solid feel.

[Racerx2k]

There should be an Allen adjustment for that, right on top of the unit, to compensate for the the springs and strings. Yeah, you may have a stiffer feel, but that adjustment will allow you to balance out the Kahler. You can actually see the unit move forward or backward as you turn the adjustment screw.

[metalchurch79]

There should be an Allen adjustment for that, right on top of the unit, to compensate for the the springs and strings. Yeah, you may have a stiffer feel, but that adjustment will allow you to balance out the Kahler. You can actually see the unit move forward or backward as you turn the adjustment screw.

I will check that out, thanks.

[Racerx2k]

Good luck.

Altoona, huh? Is the place, Aldo's, still there?