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  • Typical Gotoh tuners...how deep is enough?

    By this i mean the mount screw holding it from turning in the back
    of the headstock? Does it have to be 9/16" deep almost 90% thru
    the thickness of the headstock? Or can it be just about 3/8" deep
    and be a good 3/16" from the laminate black of the headstock on
    the front? I dont want to get too close, but i want it to be
    strong enough. Is this just a slip preventor? Or does it really
    take some torque from the string tension? Thanks! Ive got this
    killer Ibanez custom neck, but im having to drill out the tiny #4
    pilot holes for the single GOTOH retainer loop. Help this KLUTZ
    out !

  • #2
    they are just to keep them from turning
    same as screwless tuners that use a pin instead
    The Shred Neck Specialist

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    • #3
      Slide the screw into the tuner and measure how much sticks out the other side.
      That's how deep the screw holes need to be.
      If you don't drill them deep enough, you can split the wood when you screw them in.
      -Rick

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      • #4
        I'll add to RJ's comments. Use a piece of masking tape on your drill bit to mark the depth of the hole. Works great and is cheap.
        Tone is like Art: Your opinion is valid. Listen, learn, have fun, draw your own conclusions.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by rjohnstone View Post
          If you don't drill them deep enough, you can split the wood when you screw them in.
          It would be extremely rare for one of those tiny screws to split the wood.
          It's much more likely the head would snap off the screw if your holes aren't drilled big enough.

          +1 for marking your bit.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Model1VH2 View Post
            It would be extremely rare for one of those tiny screws to split the wood.
            I wouldn't say extremely rare.
            I've seen it happen before on more than one occasion.
            -Rick

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            • #7
              Yeah, especially on the low e tuner. How many jackson headstocks do we see with that split right along the tuner hole. Better safe than sorry, I say. I have a drill bit that has a handle on it and I use it for that. It is marked for depth and I do it by hand. Works great.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Carbuff View Post
                Yeah, especially on the low e tuner. How many jackson headstocks do we see with that split right along the tuner hole. Better safe than sorry, I say. I have a drill bit that has a handle on it and I use it for that. It is marked for depth and I do it by hand. Works great.
                I'm surprised ...
                I've never experienced that problem, but I have had my share of screws snap off.

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                • #9
                  Thanks guys...i did the tape on the bit for a depth marker... worked each
                  screw in and out as i went about 7/16" deep... and had a good 1/2" pilot
                  pre drilled hole...so no split..and worked fine! And this neck had me
                  anal for sure..its a custom Holoflash vine inlay neck and its the absolute
                  BOMB on my Bad Horsie! Why they came with just the dots...puzzles
                  me and Quicksilver' who i purchased them from..Having this amazing
                  vine inlay neck on the all mirrored Jem is the way Ibanez should have
                  done it in the first place. This thing is stunning! Almost impossible
                  to show how the light dances off the fretboard showing orange/blue/green/ red/ mirror chrome.... Just stunning! And the Ibanez
                  logo is done this way too in the headstock, so i was shittin a brick drilling
                  out the GOTOH retainer holes...whew!

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                  • #10
                    You know we're gonna need to see pics now.

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