Kahler 5514 locking nut

[Valgrath_Blak]

Hi everyone,

Is there anyone who knows how to install this locking nut? It's the one without the allen wrench (with the clips).

Do I replace the old one with this? I tried to do so but it doesn't fit (there is not enough fretboard to put it in - the truss rod cover gets in the way).



Thanks

[MountainDog]

You're talking about the 'Deluxe' flip lock one (lower one in link below), right? I assume you have the normal 'Standard' behind-the-nut-stringlock (upper one in link below).

http://www.kahlerparts.com/images/X-5513-5514_small.gif

If I remember correctly, the 4 holes for the screws for mounting locations are the same on both. The body of the flip one might be a little longer so you may have to slightly trim your trus rod cover.

If there was enough fretboard for the standard stringlock on your guitar, I don't understand your comment that there isn't enough fretboard for the flip-lock one. Perhaps you could take and post some pics showing the problems??

[Valgrath_Blak]

Sorry for bad english here, I didn't found a better way to say it

I guess I was trying to say that the body of the new one is a little longer and the fretboard part for the nut is not long enough.

Actually I have the lower one. I bought it because the say it fits all guitars.....A little strange but I believed them. I live in Greece and that thing doesn't exist here so I bought it directly from Kahler parts.

I'd like to ask another question: I don't see any positions for the strings on the kahler nut. How is it supposed to determine the string spacing? Do I need a normal non-locking nut for that in addition (I think that's the case?)?

These pictures are quite low quality (from the laptop cam)....I hope they can help.


Here is the original nut:



Here is the original nut and the fretboard nut position:


Here is the Kahler:


Here is the Kahler and the fretboard nut position:



The "upper" screw holes of the Kahler are off the fretboard wood. Can I screw them on the headstock wood or is it wrong?

Thank you very much for the help and sorry for my newbieness in that

[rjohnstone]

The Kahler is a BEHIND the nut string lock.
You need a standard nut in there WITH the Kahler lock.
Just stick with the Floyd nut.

[Valgrath_Blak]

The Kahler is a BEHIND the nut string lock.
You need a standard nut in there WITH the Kahler lock.
Just stick with the Floyd nut.

I'll probably stick with the original but I'll keep the kahler because I'm thinking of a custom guitar in the future, so maybe they could build the guitar with that in mind (if I supply it to them).

I'm thinking of a custom jackson Soloist (or Hamer californian, Kramer striker - do they have a custom shop? :P)

Do you think they can build the guitar (superstrat with floyd) to have a normal nut and this kahler string lock, in the custom shop? I think they wouldn't have any problem with that.....? They would have to slightly lengthen the neck behind the nut so it would be no change in the scale length......

[rjohnstone]

The Jackson CS will do it. And there's no need to add any length. They just mount it over the truss rod hole on the face of the headstock.
I know someone here has a pic of one installed.

[Valgrath_Blak]

The Jackson CS will do it. And there's no need to add any length. They just mount it over the truss rod hole on the face of the headstock.
I know someone here has a pic of one installed.

Cool. Thanks for the info.

Edit: I found a couple of pics.....it seems there's no need for a string retainer in this case.

[Zerberus]

The Kahler is a BEHIND the nut string lock.

Problem identified

Just stick with the Floyd nut.

And here´s the solution

[rjohnstone]

So you're saying I finally had a post of value? :ROTF:

[Hijack]

hi, i realize this is an old posting but you wouldn't still have the kahler 5514 lock nut, if so would be for sale? thanks