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Do any of you guys know what gear Criss specifically used on Edge of Thorns? I love his tone on this album, and I know there are other Sava fans out there...do any of you guys know for sure what he used here? Some of the gear lists on the net are thourough, but not very specific.
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Well, being a real fan myself of Chris's, I haven't found much about his equipment that helped me. Mostly stuff about Laney amps and in the early days two super overdives together with one units tone all bass the others tone all treble etc. Sorta wild to believe that I think, could be I guess though. It seem that rig wasn't being used for HOTMK and later stuff... At least I seriously doubt it.
Chris Caffery told me he was using Marshall 800s and 900s around the end... Not sure i believe exactly. Chris Oliva always had the amps hidden EVERYTIME I saw them.
Laney solid state amps and Bartolini pickups are the rumor for the Streets,Gutter,EOT era...
He used Laney cab everytime I can remember...
But, I have to say, that Bill has been able to dial up a fairly good late model Chris Oliva sound with a Marshall JMP-1, JFX, and a Marshall 9200 with 6L6 tubes. Bill gets a fair HOTMK, and even closer to the later material. Bill doesn't play the copy stuff like I do, but he can get that sound quite nicely. -
Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Cool. The only pics I have seen of him live where you can see the amps are from the mid-80s and he appears to be using Marshall JCM 800s, but the model that has more knobs than the more common kind that you see. He was also using a nice San Dimas Charvel strat in those pics too-not only was he an awesome guitarist, he had great taste in guitars too!Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Hey guys , Chris Caffery was talkin' to John and I a few years back. At that time he stated he was using Oliva's Marshall 2250 head which I believe is the 100wt dual channel lead series with reverb model. I owned a couple of those heads and they are my favorite Marshall heads by far...
Yeah My Marshall rack can nail his tone very closely if not exactly....well I'm sure it would if Chris was playing it.. [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
[ February 03, 2003, 10:29 PM: Message edited by: horns666 ]"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Good call Bill, that's the one I saw. I will try and find a pic and post it.Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Bill it is a 2205 and they are the 50 wattersComment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Nope he used the 100 wt model ...I guess the 2210 model. Sorry , I know you have the 2205... [img]graemlins/images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]
[ February 04, 2003, 11:59 AM: Message edited by: horns666 ]"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
I remember seeing a pic of Criss somewhere with a blue archtop Jackson Soloist.
Also, the back cover of EOT has him holding what appears to be a black (maybe blue?) Soloist with what appears to be a faint older Jackson "Don't Smoke" skull graphic. And there's a white, one-hum toothpaste logo Charvel inside the cd for Streets, A Rock Opera.I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Bill, don'tchya wish we'd have kept some of those 22XX series we've had over the years...
Bleh... Even Opeth is using them today, haha...Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Value wise yes and a good sounding head is always cool to have.....but I sold both those MINT 2210's and my blackend soul for my Marshall rack ...because it sounds better [img]images/icons/tongue.gif[/img]"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Bill, What settings do you use on the JMP1 for a Criss Oliva sound?
I don't think Criss liked Bartolini pickups much. He only had one guitar with the pickups in it.Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">You're tone deaf!!but I sold both those MINT 2210's and my blackend soul for my Marshall rack ...becauseComment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Well I guess you were "Tone Deaf" Too... [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
P.S. After twenty five years of tweaking vigorously.........John is still searching for tonal bliss . Will he ever find it ??.....Someday...just maybe someday... [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]
BTW ...Materofsolos to answer your question my "Oliva sound" is as follows:
JMP 1 ..Volume 18 / Gain 16 / Bass +6 / Mid -6 / Treble +6 / presence +3-6 / effects +8.......
....JFX 1 set to a usaual Van Halen slapback with just one repeat ....that's it!!!
Have fun
Later
Bill Z / Evilution
[ February 10, 2003, 10:33 AM: Message edited by: horns666 ]"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Thanks! [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img]Comment
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Re: Criss Oliva gear, from someone who knows
Oh Yeah I forgot .........OD2 ...bass shift ON"Bill, Smoke a Bowl and Crank Van Halen I, Life is better when I do that"
Donnie Swanstrom 01/25/06..miss ya!
"Well, your friend would have Bell's Palsy, which is a facial paralysis, not "Balls Pelsy" like we're joking about here." Toejam's attempt at sensitivity.Comment
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