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tomanyjacksons
09-25-2012, 08:58 PM
I'm making one of my 6 string guitars a drop A guitar AEADF#B, and was wanting some input as far as string gauge. Should I just use a regular set, toss the high E string and grab a heavier low A string? I generally use Cobalt Slinky 9's on standard tunings. I know this sounds simple but the closest guitar I have is a drop B guitar and the strings on it are a little too heavy for me, Ernie Ball Not Even Slinky 12-56. Thanks in advance.

Iivari
09-25-2012, 11:23 PM
I have used drop A with 12-56 without a problem. I also use 9 in E.

tomanyjacksons
09-26-2012, 11:33 AM
All the metal heads around here and one answer. Wow. Thank you btw.

toejam
09-26-2012, 11:56 AM
I use 10-56 on my 7-string in standard B. When dropping the B to A, it does seem a little floppy for me and I think a 58 would be better for that.

Hellbat
09-26-2012, 12:11 PM
Lowest I've gone is C standard which I believe I used a 12-52 set for.

nateb
09-26-2012, 12:14 PM
I would go for a set of 56 or higher depending on what you play. Any lower then a 56 in that tuning, things get a little too flubby.

-Nate

Devotee
09-26-2012, 02:24 PM
For that tuning i would use a baritone set (13-58) or even a 7-string set without the 1st/E string. I tune my guitars to Eb standard with 11s or C# standard with 13s. For low tunings, you do want the extra tension to help with intonation and note clarity, plus the thicker strings give you more attack and a chunkier sound in my opinion.

Chad
09-26-2012, 06:16 PM
A tuning that low is already chunky, so I try to avoid overly thick strings. For the low A, I would try a 54 or 56 and see how that works. Then I'd take the strings you like for standard tuning and shift things down one string with some tweaks. I'd probably end up with something like this: 11, 14, 20p, 32, 42, 56.

j2379
09-28-2012, 01:08 PM
dropped A, buy a 6 string bass.

tomanyjacksons
09-28-2012, 09:32 PM
dropped A, buy a 6 string bass.

LOL. My bass player got a 6 string bass the other day and wants to do some very low stuff. I'm all for it. I wish my hands had a little more love for thicker strings that are pretty tight. With what I do for a living now I have to run 9's for standard tuning. This getting old really sucks.

MetalHeadMat
09-30-2012, 03:57 AM
All the metal heads around here and one answer. Wow. Thank you btw.

Sorry for my late reply! For years I've used D'Addario 10-46 for E Standard, and each full step I go down, I use a full gauge higher. For drop tunings, I use normal strings using my method, and the dropped string would have the high gauge. (E Standard high to low = 10, 13, 17, 26, 36, 46; Drop D high to low = 10, 13, 17, 26, 36, 49)

As soon as I go to B standard or lower, I just use 7 string sets. Since you're going to be playing in Drop A, I'd suggest getting whatever you normally use in E standard, (Cobalt 9's) for the EADGF#B, then for the low B string, (which would be in A) which would be a 56.

TL;DR using my method, use your Slinky 9's for EADF#B and for the low B use a 56.

j2379
10-01-2012, 10:02 AM
i don't know why i like the feel of bigger strings and i think i have more control over feedback and more control as far as picking dynamics. pinch harmonics are a little harder to get, but i think the control is well worth it. I use 10's on 25.5", and 11's on 24.75" tuned to standard, ive got 12's on a strat tuned to either a 1/2 of full step flat and i think its got the perfect feel and tone.

bratfink
10-02-2012, 12:58 PM
Are you trying to float a bridge?

If you have a floyd or similar you will need to go to something approaching a 7 string gauge set otherwise you will have to radically alter your spring set behind the bridge.

Your other issue is going to be intonation at that tuning. I presume you are on a 25.5" scale length, but most baritone guitars are at 27" for a reason. You may find you have trouble with intonation at the high register frets (i.e. solos sound like shit).

Newc
10-02-2012, 02:44 PM
I use 9s on my 7-strings, tuned to B standard. I also use 9-42s tuned to C#. I also don't flail the strings. Worked for Iommi, works for me.

bratfink
10-03-2012, 07:55 AM
How do you do it Newc?

Every time I have tried to go to B std on 9's it's like I am playing spaghetti. I can't get a decent tone since the strings are almost too loose to vibrate effectively.

I'd love to know your trick.

Richard W
10-03-2012, 04:22 PM
This string tension calculator has helped me in the past: http://www.mcdonaldstrings.com/stringxxiii.html

tomanyjacksons
10-03-2012, 06:00 PM
Bratfink, thank you sir. I never thought about that, I think it's so we can play some Korn so leads arent going to be an issue. Richard W thank you.

VanHoosen
10-03-2012, 07:04 PM
Uh... You mean people still listen to Korn? ;)

Richard W
10-04-2012, 06:52 AM
Bratfink, thank you sir. I never thought about that, I think it's so we can play some Korn so leads arent going to be an issue. Richard W thank you.

You got it! :)

bratfink
10-04-2012, 07:42 AM
Uh... You mean people still listen to Korn? ;)

The next question will be about drop tuning his bagpipes ;)

jacksonluvr
10-04-2012, 08:26 AM
I would go for a set of 56 or higher depending on what you play. Any lower then a 56 in that tuning, things get a little too flubby.

-Nate

+1.. Try the GHS Zakk Wylde sets.. they are STUPID-HEAVY strings and are perfect for drop tuning.

tomanyjacksons
10-04-2012, 11:09 AM
Uh... You mean people still listen to Korn? ;)

He's a young bass player that can easily hold his own, so I want to make him happy.

VanHoosen
10-04-2012, 11:36 AM
He's a young bass player that can easily hold his own, so I want to make him happy.
Lock him in a room and make him listen to the first 5 King Diamond and Mercyful Fate albums. He'll thank you once he gets over the whole "teen angst" thing. ;)

Grim
10-05-2012, 08:37 PM
I would use a 59 or 62 for the low string.

JACKSONFREAK
10-15-2012, 12:41 AM
Scale length is everything. I've had to use a 70 on a 7 string for a customer to tune to drop G. With a 6 string in a drop A (hopefully its a string thru or stop tail of 25.5in scale) I would probably use a GHS ZW 10-70 or a 7 string set with the 1st string removed depending on how you wont the treble strings to feel and sound.
Gil

tomanyjacksons
10-15-2012, 12:51 AM
No Gil it's a Floyded guitar. I'm thinking I should just look for a baritone guitar and make my life easier. Granted I don't need another guitar, but................