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    Default 24hr scallop job

    AS I was sanding the poly off the back of a Peavey neck, I got a wild hair to also do a scallop job to the neck. I've not done one before and this isn't quite finished but I got most of it done in a day and it didn't turn out to badly I thought. Its a compound scallop which is why it is not the same depth going across the width of the board.


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    That looks pretty good bro.

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    thank you...a dremel, a rasp, and a few differing sized dowels with a couple different grits of sandpaper did the lot of it.

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    Wow, very deep, malmsteen style.

    Whats up with the 18th fret?

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    The sandpaper started to go on the dremel and it burned the wood. It still needs some work but I look foward to trying it out. I really tried to leave enough wood for a solid refret should the need arise later.

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    I'm not a scallop guy so excuse my ignorance on this subject, but why do they need to be that deep? Seems to me it would feel like dragging your hand up and down a washboard.

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    I'm not a scallop guy so excuse my ignorance on this subject, but why do they need to be that deep? Seems to me it would feel like dragging your hand up and down a washboard.

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    it doesnt really matter how deep they are, just as long as your fingers arent hitting the wood. and no it doesnt feel like your dragging your hand up and down a washboard. (i used to think this too).

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    Most of the depth is on the treble side. The bass side was intentionally left only slightly scalloped.
    When you have the strings on.. you're fretting hand is primarily going over the frets and the strings as stated above. Obviously it requires a different touch,.. overall a much lighter one. Having scallops this deep can also have an advantage for bends and different vibrato techniques.

    I have one other scalloped neck here on a guitar that was factory or professionally done, but that one isn't compound.
    I based how I did this off of the recent listings in the classified for the Blackmore Strat. I recall seeing and reading about this before in GP years ago. JGCable mentioned it was a compound scallop on the Blackmore and that just got me thinking along this line.

    I initially was thinking along the lines of a partial job down to 10th, but once I got started into the project, I just decided the whole neck is going to get the treatment.

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    I never used a scalloped neck before either, but, just based on my personal observation, it would seem me a light touch would be needed/required. To dig in with the fret hand fingers, to me, would seem counter prodouctive, work against you on these type of necks. As I said before I never played one and this just my observation, I'm most likely wrong.
    I'd love to test drive a scalled neck someday. Around here no stores have any scalloped guitar hanging on the racks.

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    scalloped necks, from my experience with the Blackmore, its an awesome thing indeed. very different from a standard neck.

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    I have done a few Malmsteen style scallops both maple and rosewood boards and find them quite comfortable to play on.
    A light touch is all it takes.I did a Charvel model neck from the 7th thru the 22nd fret and it plays great.

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    Richard - how is that transitioning from chords and lead fingerings on the non-scalloped part to the scalloped higher frets? is it even noticable?

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    I've played scalloped necks in the 80's for a while, they're great but you do need to adjust your grip so you don't press down too hard on chords. I bumped my string gauge up to 10's (was using 9's at the time). I am not sure why Yngwie would use 8's on a scalloped neck? If I were running 8's, I wouldn't need scallops! LOL

    It's kind of tough selling a scalloped guitar, so I just refret most of my players with 6100 or 6000 fretwire to give sort of a scalloped feel without doing any irreversable mods.

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    Default Re: 24hr scallop job

    FYI - Yngwie uses 10's but switches out the high E with an .008 to save his fingers on tour

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    OK, I understand the "lighter touch" thing, as a heavy hand would obviously press the strings out of tune easily, right? If the fretboard wasn't scalloped, that wouldn't be a problem eh? Does the scalloping provide for a cleaner note with less finger pressure? I could kinda understand that theory if you have little short skinny (or worn out) frets, but otherwise I still don't get it.

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    "Does the scalloping provide for a cleaner note with less finger pressure?"
    That is a good question.
    Typically yes, but I still say part of playability even with a scallop board depends on the guitar and its setup.
    If you think how easy it is to play on large frets with some guitars, then apply that to the next level with a scalloped fretboard. Bends are for the most part considered easier. I often see guys who just scallop from 12th or 15th on up, just for the ease whoch scalloping provides for bends in those postitions.

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    "Does the scalloping provide for a cleaner note with less finger pressure?"
    That is a good question.
    Typically yes, but I still say part of playability even with a scallop board depends on the guitar and its setup.
    If you think how easy it is to play on large frets with some guitars, then apply that to the next level with a scalloped fretboard. Bends are for the most part considered easier. I often see guys who just scallop from 12th or 15th on up, just for the ease whoch scalloping provides for bends in those postitions.

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    I understand just scalloping the higher frets, make sense to me. However, I've never played one as mentioned earlier, still, the whole bending notes makes sense to me also. Even though having the entire fretboard scalloped might seem a bit overkill to me, still I can see where it would seem useful.

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    Looks good bro, wish I had the nuts to try it myself.

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    ^ i might give it a shot with this cheapass fender neck thats just lyin around

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    The main thing for me was mapping out the depth mentally ya know? I was like "this is how far I want to go" and then trying to keep the flow of depth going from greater on the treble side and on the higher frets, to lesser on the bass side and more shallow in the lower number frets.

    I used the line where the fretboard attached and tried to keep a smooth even flow of depth. As the frets get farther apart in spacing, IMO it becomes a higher degree of difficulty to keep the scallop even, smooth and well shaped relative to the others.

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