Orion - Metallica (Live Cover in the Space)

**KabaK** · 01-30-2012, 06:40 AM

Hi people!...

This is my Orion cover;

More powerful version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bho6u1qt80c

Remastered version; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBNk-...ature=youtu.be

Old version; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBqhhSIvCQ

All critics will be appreciated.

Take care!...

**Axegrinder87** · 01-30-2012, 08:18 AM

Sounds good. I would work on your bends, most of them were quite out of tune. Other than that, great job!

From time to time, I actually practice just bends, both whole and half step, and sometimes even larger such as 2 and 3 step bends. Pick the note you're going to bend, say 17th fret on the E, pick 2 frets higher for your ear-19th fret, and bend the 17 up to it. Do it slowly until you reach the pitch perfectly. I do this about once a week.

**KabaK** · 01-30-2012, 08:55 AM

Thanks mate!...

Also, I couldn't play well last solo but this is my best at the moment.

**horns666** · 01-30-2012, 09:24 AM

Yes I aggre with AXE with bends. When you're listening..can't you hear that the pitch is off? This is sometrhing I always wondered about many players.

Oh, back to you. Ummm Play with more fire. Good players are not just strumming the right notes. Try using a harder attack when doing the palm mutes. Also..this is something I tell my son. Vibatro..vibrato..vibrato. Bend the note to pitch and just feel the note...like a singer does when holding a note. But vibrato is another book in itself really.

Honestly, I practice what I preach for decades. I still feel weird about posting a video. I see all these men, boys, and 7 year old asian girls that could hand me my ass.

I was the best guiarist in the world before Youtube came around.

Bill Z Bub

**Axegrinder87** · 01-30-2012, 09:31 AM

Totally off topic, but next time my band plays the Cleveland area, I'm totally hitting you up to jam Bill.

**KabaK** · 01-30-2012, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by horns666

Yes I aggre with AXE with bends. When you're listening..can't you hear that the pitch is off? This is sometrhing I always wondered about many players.

Oh, back to you. Ummm Play with more fire. Good players are not just strumming the right notes. Try using a harder attack when doing the palm mutes. Also..this is something I tell my son. Vibatro..vibrato..vibrato. Bend the note to pitch and just feel the note...like a singer does when holding a note. But vibrato is another book in itself really.

Honestly, I practice what I preach for decades. I still feel weird about posting a video. I see all these men, boys, and 7 year old asian girls that could hand me my ass.

I was the best guiarist in the world before Youtube came around.

Bill Z Bub

Thanks dude!...

What do u mean by saying "play with more fire" and "harder attack in palm mutes"?

**Axegrinder87** · 01-30-2012, 09:34 AM

He's saying, let your hair down, put some balls into it, have fun, melt faces... When the stars align, and you FEEL it, it comes ALIVE!

**horns666** · 01-30-2012, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by KabaK

Thanks dude!...

What do u mean by saying "play with more fire" and "harder attack in palm mutes"?

Well, I play VERY hard. Sometimes If I'm playing a different guitar I'm not used to..I will destroy the pup cover in one song. I've done that a few times. Watch ANY old Eddie Van Halen vids..that's all the "fire" you'll ever need to strive for. Even thou he picks weird. Just pick harder.

You seem bored in your vids..and that conveys to the listener. Oh, you'rer also blending to much with the original recording. Turn that down more so people can hear you better.

Your rythm has very good meter...so that's a great thing.

**horns666** · 01-30-2012, 09:43 AM

Originally Posted by Axegrinder87

He's saying, let your hair down, put some balls into it, have fun, melt faces... When the stars align, and you FEEL it, it comes ALIVE!

That was better put...yes!

Metal is supposed to do...all of that shit.

**KabaK** · 01-30-2012, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by horns666

Well, I play VERY hard. Sometimes If I'm playing a different guitar I'm not used to..I will destroy the pup cover in one song. I've done that a few times. Watch ANY old Eddie Van Halen vids..that's all the "fire" you'll ever need to strive for. Even thou he picks weird. Just pick harder.

You seem bored in your vids..and that conveys to the listener. Oh, you'rer also blending to much with the original recording. Turn that down more so people can hear you better.

Your rythm has very good meter...so that's a great thing.

Hmmm... ok, thanks mate.

About the original rec, I just want people to hear the beats because it makes the song more vivid, particularly basses of the original rec are too loud. but i see what you mean.

And thanks to Axe btw.

**KabaK** · 01-30-2012, 10:01 AM

And this one is "more without" the original track!...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBpW9ihVslk

**horns666** · 01-30-2012, 10:56 AM

Seriously..it's not what you play, but how you play it.

Oh, and watch anything "Moshwitz" Dave post in this section..along with Jani. They're VERY good. Jani does many "fun" versions of covers. He also has an original band as well. Many great players here to get advice from. These JCF guys gave me so much great info..for life.

Oh, get to know some of us in other threads. The JCF is a pretty diverse lot..lots of human dynamics and chemistry...and stuff.

Later, I gotta poop.

Billz

**KabaK** · 01-30-2012, 11:49 AM

Thanks dude... Btw previous jeff loomis video was great. I was away for dinner and you cancelled it. I'll find it on y.yube and share on my fb page

**horns666** · 01-30-2012, 11:56 AM

Ahh ..you caught that Jeff Loomis vid. I love that guy!!!I canceled my Facebook though..I hate that place. It's much too contrived to me. I have issues!

Be Good man,

BillZ

**horns666** · 01-30-2012, 02:02 PM

...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8eDc0iE0A8

**Twitch** · 01-30-2012, 02:26 PM

Pretty good. I agree with the bends as well. This is probably my favorite Metallica song, but one of the only ones I havent tried to play. May have to get on that.