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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Any pics with feature list of guitars or all we get is that teaser vid for now?
    Seems like the Jackson web site hasn't changed. It seems it takes forever to get change there.
    I want to go out nice and peaceful in my sleep like my grandfather, not screaming and hollering like the passengers in his car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenoA View Post
    Did anyone else noticed the "Floyd Special" on these? I may be wrong but these will be probably made in China just like the new Charvel Desolation models. So from a price point, they would fit in between the JS and Pro.
    I keep looking at the vid and I cannot see it saying Floyd Special anywhere on it....maybe I am missing it.

    I am starting to rethink the whole "Made in China" aspect. My Macbook Pro was made in China and it is great. Also Rasmus guitars by Suhr are MIC and I picked up a M101 at my local store and I was very impressed with it. So who knows?

    I just hope Jackson does not do away with the Japanese and USA Models...I always am paranoid that could happen...

    The only turn off for me would be if they all had Floyd Special Bridges. THAT would be a major let down.
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    I think theres more to the made in china thing than the QC aspect. It also has a lot to do with not supporting a country that does not pay its employees a fair wage and has lured many U.S. companies there with its cheap labor and lack of business ethics. I mean look at all the chinese fakes that violate all sorts of copyright laws and such. The chinese govt wants to be the leader in global manufacturing but does not want to follow any of the rules. Im sure a decent product can be made there. Sometimes you cant avoid buying chinese made stuff but I think there are many alternatives with guitars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by church2224 View Post
    I keep looking at the vid and I cannot see it saying Floyd Special anywhere on it....maybe I am missing it.

    I am starting to rethink the whole "Made in China" aspect. My Macbook Pro was made in China and it is great. Also Rasmus guitars by Suhr are MIC and I picked up a M101 at my local store and I was very impressed with it. So who knows?

    I just hope Jackson does not do away with the Japanese and USA Models...I always am paranoid that could happen...

    The only turn off for me would be if they all had Floyd Special Bridges. THAT would be a major let down.
    The one shot that shows a Floyd Special is when the camera is on the bridge of the sunburst Soloist. I stopped it and could see Floyd Rose clearly. But just under it you can make out Special.
    So I would say yes there is at least some equipped with the Special.
    Maybe not all of them. We will see. Schecter and LTD both have model levels with FRT-2000 and Specials accoring to price.
    After seeing the Charvel neck thru's with natural or satin necks I am hoping the Japanese line gives us something similar.
    Lets face it. Feature sets and flash have been the biggest complaints from here.
    You got some guys who scream for something new, and then bitch about the new ideas while talking up the old status quo.
    Chinese manufacturing was inevitable in order to be relavent to the market today. Although I would have loved seeing the Harmony factory get the contracts. Since they have done a great job on the necks they have put out. They can build them as well as you want them to. And over there thats determined by what they will spend.

    I know it will hurt someones feelings, but Bravo JCMI for taking the plunge and trying something new. Rather then nothing at all. I hope it pays off big for real J/C devotee's.
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    I don't care which country its built in, so long as its built well and sounds good.
    "Buy it because fuck you" :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by wilkinsi View Post
    I don't care which country its built in, so long as its built well and sounds good.
    Agreed

    Now that I think about it as well the Floyd Specials Jackson uses are not too bad, still might check them out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cpt. Ahab View Post
    Actually, I don't think it is the same song. The music in the ad is just a ripoff of the Papa Roach.



    What does this have to do with the discussion?
    Actually, Papa Roach's song Last Resort is a rip-off of Iron Maiden's Hallowed Be Thy Name... but they claim to never have really listened to Iron Maiden. What does that have to do with the discussion?
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    Quote Originally Posted by holycross1 View Post
    The one shot that shows a Floyd Special is when the camera is on the bridge of the sunburst Soloist. I stopped it and could see Floyd Rose clearly. But just under it you can make out Special.
    So I would say yes there is at least some equipped with the Special.
    Maybe not all of them. We will see. Schecter and LTD both have model levels with FRT-2000 and Specials accoring to price.
    This is the best I could do but there is something under the "Floyd Rose"...


    Some will have EMG and some HZ...



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    Quote Originally Posted by BenoA View Post
    This is the best I could do but there is something under the "Floyd Rose"...


    Some will have EMG and some HZ...


    i am guessing there might be a higher end x series and a lower end. HZ models have the special Floyd and maybe the ones with actual EMGS had an FRT-2000 or an original Floyd? Because in this it looks like the HZ Soloist/ Dinky is the only one that has the Special that we know of.

    I have a thought. Maybe from now on the X series will be like the pro-line in that there will be lower end bolt on ones with the HZ pickups and Floyd Special bridges and then there will be higher end ones with Floyd Rose FRT-2000/1000 trems and Regular EMGs and neck thrue bodies...

    If that is the case then This will be very good for all of us!

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    Hurry up already, Jackson. I need retail therapy
    "Buy it because fuck you" :D

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    I just hope they offer more color choices besides black, gray, and occasionally white.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    I just hope they offer more color choices besides black, gray, and occasionally white.
    Agreed. Make some red and blue ones or something. At least the White RR With the black pinstripes is a step in the right direction.

    It will makes Alexi Laiho shit his pant!

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    nevermind...
    GEAR:

    some guitars...WITH STRINGS!!!! most of them have those sticks like on guitar hero....AWESOME!!!!

    some amps...they have some glowing bottle like things in them...i think my amps do that modelling thing....COOL, huh?!?!?!

    and finally....

    i have those little plastic "chips" used to hit the strings...WHOA!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BenoA View Post
    That makes sense Church.
    From what Eaeolian said to me on the thread about this at the Sevenstring.org forum the MG Series will be blending into the Pro Series.

    From what I have been reading this might be the new MG Series and complements what I said earlier, which is good!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Devotee View Post
    Anyway, which is better: Made in India or Made in China?
    India, but not by a lot IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by church2224 View Post
    Agreed. Make some red and blue ones or something. At least the White RR With the black pinstripes is a step in the right direction.
    Ibanez used to use this one color called "jewel blue" that was the most gorgeous shade of blue ever used on guitars, and no picture of the color does it justice. It was a rich blue like a cobalt glass bottle. Now they only use that color on their cheap guitars, which sucks. I wish Jackson would use a blue color like that instead of the dull lifeless dark blue they do use.

    Plus Jackson made a custom "king Rhoads" for NAMM a few years ago in Eerie Dess GREEN that was also insanely gorgeous that I would love to see as an option. The blue and red swirls were OK but the green really popped out.

    Plus metallic copper is an under-used color.

    Plus the transparent "chlorine blue" for the Phil Collen model would look nice on other models.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
    Ibanez used to use this one color called "jewel blue" that was the most gorgeous shade of blue ever used on guitars, and no picture of the color does it justice. It was a rich blue like a cobalt glass bottle. Now they only use that color on their cheap guitars, which sucks. I wish Jackson would use a blue color like that instead of the dull lifeless dark blue they do use.

    Plus Jackson made a custom "king Rhoads" for NAMM a few years ago in Eerie Dess GREEN that was also insanely gorgeous that I would love to see as an option. The blue and red swirls were OK but the green really popped out.

    Plus metallic copper is an under-used color.

    Plus the transparent "chlorine blue" for the Phil Collen model would look nice on other models.
    I saw that EDG Rhoads. Gorgeous looking guitar! That model itself needs to be a USA Select model.

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    Quote Originally Posted by toejam View Post
    Actually, Papa Roach's song Last Resort is a rip-off of Iron Maiden's Hallowed Be Thy Name... but they claim to never have really listened to Iron Maiden. What does that have to do with the discussion?
    It's actually a rip-off of "Bring Your Daughter to the Slaughter", tsk tsk tsk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RacerX View Post
    India, but not by a lot IMO.
    A buddy of mine had bought a brand-new BC Rich Jr. V for 300GBP (~$500) blow-out from E-Bay. Neck-through construction, Korean Floyd, diamond inlays, etc. but MIC and it turned out to be a fantastic player and really solidly built. Sure, the pickups were junk but a Duncan Invader fixed it just right. Either way, i believe J/C have learned from past mistakes when it comes to imports. It seems that FMIC has invested a lot into both the Charvel Desolation series and Jackson X-series and i'm glad to finally see J/C get off their asses and make some changes to their (admittedly dated and flabby) product line(s). As wilksy said, i don't care where they're made, as long as they're well-built, so fingers crossed. They really stepped it up a notch with the Pro series the past couple of years or so, so let's hope that this new X-series will live up to that and bring in some revenue - that would be a good thing for all of us.

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