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  • Help! Allen key broken off inside truss rod socket

    Hey there fellow JCFers

    Haven't posted here for a while, nice to be back

    I have a black '88 Charvel Model 4, and it's a rock solid instrument. I wanted to adjust the truss rod today when I discovered that there is the tip of an allen (or hex) key that's broken off inside the truss rod socket.

    I also have a Charvel Fusion V bass, and it has exactly the same problem. I cannot adjust the truss rods on either instruments because they are, well, blocked.

    What can I do about this?

    Cheers

  • #2
    Wow... someone had to have REEFED on it to break the allen wrench... not good...
    "I would have banned you for taking part in hijacking and derailing a thread when you could have started your own thread about your own topic." - Unknown

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    • #3
      I think the problem here is that neither the Model 4 nor the Fusion bass take an allen wrench. They take a 7mm box wrench like this:

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      • #4
        Help! Allen key broken off inside truss rod socket

        > Yeah it takes quite a bit of force to twist even a cheapo Allen key,much less a good hardened one. Tommy D.
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        • #5


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          • #6
            Originally posted by dg View Post
            I think the problem here is that neither the Model 4 nor the Fusion bass take an allen wrench. They take a 7mm box wrench like this:


            That's what I was going to say, my Model 2 uses a "socket" , not an allen wrench too.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by axewielder View Post


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              • #8
                If you had a allen key you didn't care about loosing couldn't you apply some super glue to the flat end and try to glue it to the broken half so it would adhere to remove it?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Sharkfin View Post
                  If you had a allen key you didn't care about loosing couldn't you apply some super glue to the flat end and try to glue it to the broken half so it would adhere to remove it?
                  You apparently didn't read the other posts in this thread.
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                  • #10
                    I'll try again... there is no broken-off allen key to remove on an import Charvel. The trussrods on these have a 7mm nut on the end which you turn by putting a box wrench or socket on it, rather than putting an allen key in it. There are lots of guitars with this type of adjustment.

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                    • #11
                      Why couldn't you pull it straight out with a pair of small, needle nose vice grips? BTW: I suspect you need a box wrench and not an allen key to adjust your trussrod.

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                      • #12
                        Does anyone read a thread before responding?
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                        • #13
                          :ROTF:
                          I feel my soul go cold... only the dead are smiling.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by toejam View Post
                            You apparently didn't read the other posts in this thread.
                            I've apparently been misunderstood, I did read all the other posts and realize the truss rod uses a wrench. I should have stated my question differently. I was trying to find out if there was in fact a broken alley key in a truss rod that uses allen keys, if you could glue it to another one you didn't care about to remove it... I don't mean to hijack the thread, I'm just asking.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sharkfin View Post
                              I was trying to find out if there was in fact a broken alley key in a truss rod that uses allen keys, if you could glue it to another one you didn't care about to remove it...
                              I doubt it.

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